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Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 14:20

seems to fit


MILLER, WILLIAM CHARLES HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 143

MILLER, ELIZA ANN HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 447

MILLER, HENRY ALEXANDER HOOK Order
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 290

1939
50 Dalyell Road , Lambeth, London, England
t name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Henry A Miller 18 Jan 1867 Male Old Age Pensioner - 5 1
Florence C Miller 23 Mar 1896 Female Blouse Presser Single 5 2

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 14:18

It seems likely it's your Alexander- plus no middle name on death.

Deaths Jun 1871
Miller Alexander 31 Lambeth 1d 295
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Also can't see another Alexander that fits with father William, a carpenter.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 14:01

Thank you very mush everyone for all the added information.

George Sims died in 1883........Mary C Sims died in 1899.

Could any of you please give your opinion on Alexander Henry Miller's marriage to Selina Hook.

It does seem a bit too much of a coincidence to me.

Father......Deceased......Occ: Carpenter..........well that fits.

Place and year of birth.......well that fits.

Living before his marriage in 1861 Lambeth........Living there after his marriage in 1871.

He named his daughter Eliza..........his mother was Eliza.

What do you think?

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 13:23


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Sims Head Widow Female 46 1845 Charwoman Scotland
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Jane Sims Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar London, Middlesex, England

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 13:02


George Sims
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name George Sims
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St George, East, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 4
Gender Male
Age 43
Marital Status Married
Occupation Carpenters Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1828
Birthplace Preston, Lancashire
Entry Number 1
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0540/0131
Household


Birthplace
George Sims Head M 43 Preston, Lancashire
Mary C Sims Wife F 31 Leish, Scotland
Ann E Sims Daughter F 8 St George E, Middlesex
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB85-ZSF : 24 July 2015), George Sims, 1871.


8 could mean 8 months

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2017 12:57

SIMS, ANNA ELIZABETH (PORTER)
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 436

(according to Below, and Ancestry, London, for above says Bostock Street Born 24th August)

London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933 Transcription (Find My Past)

Chris :)

(probably meaning 8 mths for 1871, instead of 8. Census taken April 1871)


(also to add, that William Chevalier, he Married Mary Ann Hook 1864, Selina Hook, witness)

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2017 12:49

????

number 1 bostock street


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bostock Street, St George, East, St George in the East, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Sims Head - Male 43 1828 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Mary C Sims Wife - Female 31 1840 - Scotland
Transcription
Ann E Sims Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2017 12:48

MILLER, ELIZA ANN (HOOK)
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 447

Baptism for above (London, Ancestry) 19 Ingleton St.

Chris :)

(other for that 1871 posted)

MILLER, HENRY ALEXANDER (HOOK)
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 290


(if him below, age 24, Father, Alexander Henry Miller, Deceased)

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Miller Henry Alexander St. Saviour 1d 335
Sadler Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 335

(and)

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Hussey Thomas Owen St. Saviour 1d 299
Miller Eliza Ann St. Saviour 1d 299

(witnesses Henry Alexander Miller and Mary Ann Miller)


1939 Register (Find My Past)

50 Dalyell Road , Lambeth, London
Henry A Miller 18 Jan 1867 Male Old Age Pensioner
Florence C Miller 23 Mar 1896 Female Blouse Presser Single


MILLER, FLORENCE CLEMENTINA (SADLER)
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK LONDON Volume 01D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 12:25

Yes that is my Daniel and Christian Maddie.

Ooop's!......Sorry Austin.......I mean't to say Sarah Eliza Miller. (Mother Eliza Porter)

I was just testing to make sure you were paying attention!

:-D

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 12:16

PH- are you trying to send me barmy??

From your last post:

"Ok........i have just figured it out.

Sarah Eliza Porter who married George Sims is my 1st Cousin 4x removed."

George Sims married Sarah Eliza Miller!??

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 12:00

just realised you may already have this but will leave it anyway
:-) :-) :-)
maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 11:37

Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 61
Birth Date: abt 1796
Burial Date: 12 Feb 1857
Burial Place: London, England
Reference Number: CTHC/01/007

great alid street

Name: Christian Porter
Age: 58
Birth Date: abt 1798
Burial Date: 10 Apr 1856
Burial Place: London, England

great alid street whitechapel
Reference Number: CTHC/01/006

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Jul 2017 11:20

is this daniels marriage
Daniel
Last name Porter
Name note -
Marriage year 1823
Marriage date 18 Feb 1823
Marriage place London
Spouse's first name(s) Christian
Spouse's last name Richardson
County London
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from England, Great Britain

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Name: Daniel Porter
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1823
Marriage Place: Saint Peter Cornhill,London,London,England
Spouse: Christian Richardson
FHL Film Number: 374996, 942 B4HA V. 1, 942 B4HA V. 4

witness william miller

1851
Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Christian Porter
Gender: Male
Where born: Clavering, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Allhallows Barking
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 1531
Folio: 149
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Porter 54
Christian Porter 52
Alex B Porter 26
Mary C Porter 10

1841
in the 1841 Scotland Census
1841 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection

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Name: Mary Porter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: North Leith
County: Midlothian
Address: London Row
Parish Number: 692/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Porter 35
Alexander Porter 15
Daniel Porter 14
David Porter 14
John Porter 12
Mary Porter 1

1841
Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Absent at Sea or in Foreign Ports
County: Midlothian
Occupation: Mer S
Parish Number: 692/1
Household Members:
Name

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 10:35

Ok........i have just figured it out.

Sarah Eliza Porter who married George Sims is my 1st Cousin 4x removed.

George's second wife Mary Porter is my 3rd Grt Aunt.....born 1841 Midlothian, Leith Scotland. (She is actuallu Mary C (Christian?) Porter)

The daughter of my 3x Grt Grandparents Daniel and Christian Porter.

I kid you not! :-S

Phew! :-D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 10:14

Hang on.......... George Sims remarried a Mary Porter born Scotland

A penny has just dropped..........be right back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 09:36

Morning Chris ;o))

I'm not having any luck with that marriage either.

On page one......Andrew posted this possible marriage for Alexander "Porter" Miller

Name: Alexander "Henry" Miller (Bachelor) Carman
Spouse: Selina Hook (Spinster)
One Address given....Cardigan Street
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Sep 1868
Parish: St Mary, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Miller......Occ Carpenter (Deceased)
Spouse Father: Thomas Hook
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: W Chevaler? and Mary Ann Chevaler?

Can anyone please see if they can find an Alexander "Henry" Porter with a father William......Occ: Carpenter?

I looked yesterday but didn't manage to find one.

This is the 1871 census and his age does look to be 31 on the image......

Res: 17 Ingleton Street, Lambeth

Name: Alexander Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Stockwell
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 678
Folio: 95
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Miller 37 Carman Unemployed (looks more like 31 on image........so born 1840)
Selina Miller 28
Henry Miller 4

(Edit: My Alexander was living at 8 Ingleborough Street, Lambeth on the 1861 census.)

This is my Alexander Porter Miller........

Alexander Porter Miller in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alexander Porter Miller.......***.MMN PORTER***
Registration Year: 1840
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 435



Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2017 09:14

(yes, well done you two, as I've been sittin' here too long already and hadn't got round to Sims yet!)

Any chance on that William Milner/Miller Eliz. Porter Marriage, bit annoying that, to say the least!)

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2017 09:06

Morning Safc and Austin

One of my missions today was to find out what happened to Sarah's husband George Sims.

I am thrilled that you have both worked that one out for me already.

It seems the only children George and Sarah had together were the two that sadly died.

Thank you both. x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Jul 2017 07:56

That looks good Safc.

Sarah died in 1867 Bostock Street.

George remarried in 1868 to Mary Porter.

In 1881 George was still in Bostock Street- occupation matching the 1861 census:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Bostock Street, St George in the East, London, England

George Sims Head Married Male 62 1819 Diver (Eng) Wiltshire, England
Mary Sims Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Scotland
Annie Sims Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar St George, Middlesex, England
Winefried Sims Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar St George, Middlesex, England
Jane Sims Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - St George, Middlesex, England
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Birth of daughter:
SIMS, ANNA ELIZABETH mmn: PORTER
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 436

safc

safc Report 3 Jul 2017 21:16

????

looks like sims or sins on the image, but occupation wrong


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Single Street West Side, Stepney, Mile End Old Town, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Sino Head Married Male 42 1819 Submarine Driver Bradford, Wiltshire, England
Transcription
Sarah Sino Wife Married Female 35 1826 Sempstress Limehouse, Middlesex, England