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Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 16:10
	So annoying- Just that baptism that's not fitting, hoping it's an error. I'm pretty certain we now have the correct Charles, but I think to be sure Carol needs the Charles Elks/ Catherine Smart 1873 marriage certificate, which would hopefully confirm his father as Mark Elks, miner- unless anyone can see it anywhere?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	27 Jan 2017 16:05
	no, sorry AQ, only as it appears on below...(unless it is anywhere else with an image) Chris :) http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Portobello Primitive Methodist Chapel
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 16:04
	If this is Mark in 1851, looks like another child born to one of them before the marriage: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Markett Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Mark Elks Head Married Male 24 1827 Miner In Coal Salop Eliza Elks Wife Married Female 24 1827 Salop William Elks Son - Male 6 1845 Salop Thomas Cubley Lodger Widower Male 33 1818 Miner In Coal Leicestershire Thomas Cubley Jr Lodger - Male 12 1839 Miner In Coal Leicestershire,
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 16:00
	So, I'm wondering if that baptism is a mistake- Chris, can you see the original?
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:59
	??? ELKS, CHARLES MORRIS GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 420
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:58
	Interesting Austin! ?? Mark Elkes in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Mark Elkes Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: 1827 Marriage Date: 1849 Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford, England Father: William Elkes Spouse: Eliza Morris ?? Mark Elkes in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Mark Elkes Gender: Male Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1827 Baptism Place: Wellington,Shropshire,England Father: William Elkes Mother: Sarah ?? Mark Elkes in the 1841 England Census Name: Mark Elkes Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Gender: Male Where born: Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Wellington Hundred: South Bradford (Wellington Division) County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Wellington Sub-registration district: Wellington Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 907 Book: 7 Folio: 16 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age William Elkes 40 Sarah Elkes 40 Mark Elkes 12 William Elkes 5
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:56
	And fits for this birth: ELKS, CHARLES (mother's maiden name: MORRIS ) GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 420
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:55
	right, just to add quick version lol, (shopping half put away!) there is below... Chris :) County Staffordshire Place (link for place information) Sedgley Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 12 Marriage date 09 Jul 1849 Groom forename Mark Groom surname ELKES Groom age 22 Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Sedgley Groom occupation Miner Bride forename Eliza Bride surname MORRIS Bride age 22 Bride condition spinster Bride abode Sedgley Groom father forename William Groom father surname ELKES Groom father occupation Labourer Bride father forename William Bride father surname MORRIS Bride father occupation Weaver Witness William DAVIES Witness Jane DAVIES Register note Bride & groom sign X Burial County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church name Bilston Cemetery, Cemetery Lane (Consecrated Ground) Register type Unspecified Register entry number 2355 Burial date 26 Mar 1865 Person age 38 Burial person forename Mark Burial person surname ELKS Burial person abode Broad Street Register note Parish of St Leonard's Bilston, public grave no. 923 https://www.deceasedonline.com/ (above has Charles Elks Burial) Ancestry, London has 4 Baptisms for children of Charles, 3 with below) (Charles Elks, Catharine Jane Elizabeth Cooper Elks)
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:46
	That baptism that Chris found looks good- but as you said, not seeing Mark & Caroline. Did see this: 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12, Broad Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Margaret Cooper Head Widow Female 65 1796 - Not Known Mark Helke Son In Law Married Male 32 1829 Coal Miner Shropshire, Eliza Helke Daughter In Law Married Female 34 1827 - Not Known Charles Helke Son - Male 9 1852 Portobello Staffordshire, England
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:36
	For further info....... 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 17, New Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England Charles Elks Head Married Male 48 1853 Ironmongers Porter Portobello Staffordshire, England Catherine Elks Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Wollaston, Northamptonshire, England Ernest Elks Son Single Male 18 1883 Railway Porter London, England Rosallia Elks Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - London, England Beatrice Elks Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - London, England John Mortlock Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Packer Out Of Work Suffolk, England Catherine is a Widow in 1911.......... 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 24 Milton Road West Green, Tottenham, Middlesex, England Catherine Elks Head Widow Female - 59 1852 Woollaston Northants Rose Elks Daughter Single Female Refreshnment Waitress 20 1891 St Johns Wood Beatrice Elks Daughter Single Female Cigarette Maker 17 1894 St Johns Wood Charles Elks Grandson - Male - 7 1904 Kentish Town (States 8 children born, 4 living, 4 had died) Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%) Elks Charles 55 Edmonton 3a 278
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	27 Jan 2017 15:02
	Oh dear! Just going to get a cuppa and I'll take a look- Nice work PH. Carol you might have your Charles mixed up.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	27 Jan 2017 13:54
	Seems strange PH, can only see Mark with an Eliza 1851...(Wolverhampton) (will look in later, now off to see Mr. Tes*o!)
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 13:44
	Well, it looks good Chris but......i can't spot a Charles Elks with parents Mark and Caroline. I can't spot a marriage for a Mark Elks to a Caroline either.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	27 Jan 2017 13:24
	Any good for that one below folks... Chris :) Baptism County Staffordshire Place Portobello Church name Primitive Methodist Chapel Register type Unspecified Baptism date 29 Jun 1852 Person forename Charles Person sex M Person abode Portobello Father forename Mark Father surname ELKS Father occupation Miner Mother forename Caroline http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 13:05
	So if it's Willam Mark Elks you are researching, i think it's back to the drawing board! What do you think Austn?
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 12:21
	Hmmm, ok....here goes..... Charles Elks......the son of William and Ann Cotton, was born 1854 ELKS, CHARLES COTTON GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 297 On the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census......it states that Charles, the father of William Mark Elks, was born in Portobello. Staffordshire I think this is possibly Charles (The son of William and Ann Cotton) in 1881 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription West Hill, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Charles Elks Head Married Male 27 1854 Baker & Confectioner Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England Mary A Elks Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Elks Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%) ELKS Charles Wellington, Sh. 6a 1259 Massey Mary Anne Wellington Sal 6a 1259 ELKS, ELIZABETH ANNIE MASSEY Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 554 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tanhouse Terrace, Castle Road, Builth or Llanfair in Buallt, Builth, Breconshire, Wales Charles Elks Head Married Male 36 1855 Confectioner & Baker Burton, Staffordshire, Mary A Elks Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth A Elks Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Charles E Elks Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Dorothea M Elks Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Breconshire, Wales George Slaymaker Lodger Single Male 31 1860 Agent For Singer Sewing Machine Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1 Stanley Villa Countisbury Lynmouth North Devon, Countisbury, Devon, England Charles Elks Head Married Male Baker And Confectioner 56 1855 Burton on Trent Staffordshire Mary Annie Elks Wife Married Female - 64 1847 Willenhall Staff Charles Edmund Elks Son Single Male Labourer Bricklayer 27 1884 Hednesford Staff Dorothy Mary Elks Daughter Single Female Housemaid Domestic 25 1886 Builthwells Brecconshire
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 11:50
	Oh dear! I think i might have to throw a spanner in the works.........just off to double check!
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 11:28
	1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 13, Lower William Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England Charles Elks Head Married Male 28 1853 Ironmonger Porter Portobello Staffordshire, England Catharine Elks Wife Married Female 31 1850 Charwoman Wollaston, Northamptonshire, England Wm Mark Elks Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Middlesex, England ELKS, WILLIAM MARK SMART GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 549 Parents marriage...... Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%) Elks Charles St.Giles 1b 809 Smart Catherine St. Giles 1b 809
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 11:14
	Violet Mary C Elks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Violet Mary C Elks Registration Year: 1900 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 85 Violet Mary Elks in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Violet Mary Elks Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1900 Father's name: William Elks (Carman) 17 New Street Mother's name: Kate Elks Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St Stephen the Martyr Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers Violet Mary C Elks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Violet Mary C Elks Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 6 Registration district: Edmonton Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 214 ELKS, VIOLET MARY COOPER CULL GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 85
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	27 Jan 2017 11:03
	ELKS, HARRY FREDERICK WILFRID CULL GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 502 Looking through the census records.......i think this is Harry on the 1911 census......he appears as Frederick. 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 24 Milton Road West Green, Tottenham, Middlesex, England William Elks Head Married Male Carter 37 1874 St Giles London Lydia Elks Wife Married Female - 37 1874 Fisherton Wilts Catherine Elks Daughter - Female - 8 1903 Kentish Town London Alfred Elks Son - Male - 4 1907 Tottenham Middx Frederick Elks Son - Male - 2 1909 Tottenham Middx Parents marriage...... Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%) Cull Kate Pancras 1b 311 Elks William Pancras 1b 311 William was actually..... Births Jun 1873 (>99%) Elks William Mark St.Giles 1b 549 Lydia was actually.... Births Dec 1876 (>99%) CULL Lydia Kate Wilton 5a 193 William M Elks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: William M Elks Birth Date: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Dec 1949 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Alton Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 6b Page: 33 Lydia Kate Elks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Lydia Kate Elks Birth Date: 5 Nov 1873 Date of Registration: Mar 1973 Age at Death: 99 Registration district: Alton Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 6b Page: 171 William M Elks on the 1939 Register Elks Household (4 People) Parkside Cottage , Alton R.D., Hampshire, England William M Elks 12 Apr 1873 Male Watchman Bordon Camp Married 76 1 Lydia K Elks 05 Nov 1876 Female Housewife Married 76 2 Ernest A Elks 15 Jan 1917 Male Labourer Single 76 3 Dorothy G (Doris) Nicholls 03 Sep 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 76 4 (2 Closed Records) 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 46, Grafton Terrace, St Pancras, London, England William Elks Head Married Male 27 1874 Railway Carman St Giles, Middlesex, England Kate Elks Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Fisherton, Wiltshire, England Violet Elks Daughter - Female 1 1900 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

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