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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jul 2016 21:21

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 (Find My Past)
(William Edward Swinyard)

(a lot of images to read through, but below on it)


Married to Catherine Booth. Place Chatham. Date 8/1/16)

(below relates, Death Cert. on Record)

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Swinyard Gladys P E Cottle Medway 2a 1388 (11/3/16. Place Gillingham. 6, Vicarage Road)


Deaths Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Swinyard Gladys P E 1 Greenwich 1d 818 (1/7/17. Address, 4, West Grove Terrace, Point Hill. Blanche Foster as Informant. Address, 4, West Grove Terrace, Point Hill


Burial Register summary
Swinyard Gladys
Burial date 05 July 1917
Authority Royal Borough of Greenwich - London
Location Greenwich Cemetery (Greenwich)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

(16/4/1921, Address, 110, Norman Road, Greenwich. (Acknowledges receipt of War and Victory Medal. Royal West Kent Regt. 8609)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 21:13

William's death - day is a bit out

WILLIAM EDWARD
Last name SWINYARD
Gender Male
Birth day 10
Birth month 3
Birth year 1889
Death quarter 3
Death year 1977
District LEWISHAM
County London
Volume 14
Page 0657

His cremation
Swinyard
first names William Edward
CrematedOn:23 September 1977
Recorded at: Hither Green Crematorium (Lewisham)
Date of death 19 September 1977

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 20:47

Well done for finding that 1939 Register entry safc :-D

Gladys - the evidence is that her maiden name is BOOTH as per the marriage and your Aunty Eileen's birth reg.

You can order a copy of the MC at a cost of £9.25 from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

That'll tell you who she names as her father. Witnesses might also be Booth relations.

Posting yet again
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484
Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484 <<<<<<
Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484
Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484 <<<<<<

Perhaps this transcription layout will help you understand

First name(s) CATHERINE
Last name BOOTH
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1916
Spouse's last name SWINYARD
District MEDWAY
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 1484
MarriageFinder™ CATHERINE BOOTH married WILLIAM E SWINYARD

The reverse
WILLIAM E
Last name SWINYARD
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1916
Spouse's last name BOOTH
District MEDWAY
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 1484

MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM E SWINYARD married CATHERINE BOOTH

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2016 20:42


Catherine M Swingard on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Household (2 People) 71 Launcelot Road , Lewisham, London, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Catherine M Swingard 04 May 1888 Female Domestic Duties Married 48 3
William E Swingard 18 Mar 1889 Male Railway Labourer Heavy Worker Married 48 2

Ref: RG101/0395A/009/39 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd
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should be swinyard

Gladys Joyce

Gladys Joyce Report 11 Jul 2016 20:24

This sounds like my Nan. Catherine Mary Swinyard. and cremated in Hither Green. I wish I knew her maiden name and some of her family.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 20:06

Is it possible that this is her cremation?

Swinyard, Catherine Mary
CrematedOn: 08 July 1976
Recorded at: Hither Green Crematorium (Lewisham)
Date of death 05 July 1976

From https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Corresponding Death reg
CATHERINE MARY
Last name SWINYARD
Gender Female
Birth day 4
Birth month 5
Birth year 1888
Death quarter 3
Death year 1976
District LEWISHAM
County London
Volume 14
Page 0530

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 19:44

The birth reg for 2 Eileens were posted - was if the one with the mother's maiden name of Booth?

So pulling forward the marriage already posted - is this Wiliam and Catherine's marriage?

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484
Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484 <<<
Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484
Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484 <<<<

That tells us that her maiden name was Booth.
If you were to get a copy of her MC, it should tell you her declared age and her father's name.

Do you know when she died? The dob may be on that.

Gladys Joyce

Gladys Joyce Report 11 Jul 2016 19:27

Eileen Swinyard was my aunt. My mother´s sister. :-)

Gladys Joyce

Gladys Joyce Report 11 Jul 2016 19:24

Yes my mother was previously married to a Mr Victor Saxby. She was born in Greenwich. Then she married Mr. Joseph McGuire (my father) from Dublin but who had moved to England where they met. I would like to find my father´s family and also my grandmother´s family, Catherine who was married to William Swinyard

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 18:58

As Gladys is a novice user of the boards - PM sent advising that we have added to the thread and asking her to read & reply using the 'Add your reply' box.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jul 2016 18:34

Gladys also had Eileen Swinyard 1918 in her tree:

A daughter for the 1916 marriage?

First name(s) EILEEN M
Last name SWINYARD
Birth year 1921
Birth quarter 3
Mother's last name BOOTH
District GREENWICH
County London
Volume 1D Page 1816
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But also this one:

First name(s) EILEEN E
Last name SWINYARD
Birth year 1918
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name BOYFIELD
District SLEAFORD
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A Page 603

Think we need a bit of feedback Gladys!

You can reply using the box at the bottom of this thread ("Add Your Reply").

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 17:54

1939 Register which might match the Champ/Swinyard 1912 marriage

Swinyard Household (5 People) 201 Nacton Road , Ipswich C.B., Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status
Elizabeth E Swinyard 28 Apr 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
George E Swinyard 19 Feb 1891 Male Foreman Of Works Ceinc Dept Adm Married
Winifred E Swinyard 15 Sep 1913 Female Shop Assistant (Grocery Single
Donald L Snow 04 Jan 1907 Male Progress Clerk (Engineers) Married
Kathleen M Snow 03 Jul 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

so if we were to assume that Kathleen M is their daughter, the 1912 marriage is a red herring

To confirm maiden name
Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%)
Snow Donald L Swinyard Ipswich 4a 3713
Swinyard Kathleen M Snow Ipswich 4a 3713

So the 1912 Medway birth, repeated below, is incorrect
Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Swinyard Kathleen M Champ Medway 2a 1468

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2016 17:47

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
Champ Elizabeth E Swinyard Medway 2a 1013
Swinyard George E Champ Medway 2a 1013

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 17:43

Gladys has Kathleen Swinyard 1916 where as another member has her born 1912. Medway which would match with

EDIT - Probably not this one!
Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Swinyard Kathleen M Champ Medway 2a 1468

Assuming a marriage to Joseph McGuire (Glady's father)

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)
McGuire Joseph Saxby Lewisham 5d 294
McGuire Joseph Swinyard Lewisham 5d 294
Saxby Kathleen McGuire Lewisham 5d 294
Swinyard Kathleen McGuire Lewisham 5d 294

suggests that she had previously been married to a Mr Saxby.

Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%)
Saxby Victor N Swinyard Lewisham 1d 1940
Swinyard Kathleen Saxby Lewisham 1d 1940

The 1947 Mcquire/Swinyard marriage does seem more plausible if one were to research the names of their children ;-)

We do need feed back to know if Glady's mother was born in Medway area in 1912 or if this is incorrect.

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2016 16:49

????

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484
Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484
Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484
Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jul 2016 16:35

Hello Gladys- can you tell us a little more about William Swinyard?

I see you have a William Swinyard born 1893 in your tree- is it the wife of this William you are trying to find?

What were their children's names and where were they born/ raised?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Jul 2016 16:30

Welcome to the boards Gladys.

A bit more info would help. Are you sure you know nothing about William's wife? Where did you get the name William Swinyard from? Was it from his daughters MC?

Known or assumed years of birth and details of other related events, would be useful.

Gladys Joyce

Gladys Joyce Report 11 Jul 2016 16:18

Hello I am trying to find out information about my grandmother´s family. The only thing I know is that she was born in Dublin. Also my father´s family Joseph McGuire born in 1912 also in Dublin