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hang on a bit, this may throw some light on things.

Sons William and George are missing from 1871 census but they are with their uncle:-

Name: William Overton
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Itteringham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 5041
Folio: 89
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
George Allexander 37 born: Itteringham, Norfolk (1834)
Mary Allexander 34
Sarah C Allexander 14
Martha A Allexander 13
Caroline Allexander 12
Blanch Allexander 3
Alice J Allexander 4 Months

xxxxxx William Overton 19
xxxxxx George Overton 18

William Ayton 21

...................and his surname is Alexander!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name Jane Alexander
Gender Female
Christening Date 29 Jan 1860
Christening Place Bacton, Norfolk, England
Father's Name Matthew Alexander
Mother's Name Elizabeth Alexander

Hi Catherine, I am getting ready to add my potential grandchild, due end of April, to my family tree and, so far, I have had limited input, definitely no certificates! Most of what I have found so far has been given the O.K.

Name Robert Alexander
Gender Male
Christening Date 22 Jan 1861
Christening Place Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name William Alexander
Mother's Name Elizabeth Alexander

I think the 1861 census onwards above are probably correct for Emma's family, but, as Catherine said, I think you may need her birth certificate to confirm Elizabeth/ Esther's maiden name.

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Eliza Saunders

mentioned in the record of William Alexander and Eliza Saunders

Name William Alexander
Spouse's Name Eliza Saunders
Event Date 21 Sep 1873
Event Place Kirstead, Norfolk, England

If you're searching Emma Overton then do you have any certificates?
Birth certificate will give you her parents name, including mother's mmn which will help enormously.

Sorry, had to go put the dinner on.

Just to explain my idea for the name Alexander:-
I thought that maybe Elizabeth Saunders could have married someone with surname Alexander and her husband died and she went on the marry John Overton .............but haven't found anything to proove that yet. :-(

Yes thank you Austin. the Emma Overton I was chasing is the wife of William Pettinger as per your 1891

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356432

(above 'Thread' relates from yesterday)


Andrew Report 29 Nov 2015 11:37

Possible parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Overton Emma Aylsham 4b 256
PETTINGER William Aylsham 4b 256


Andy

there is a parish in North Norfolk by the name of Bacton

Sorry Alviegal but most of what has gone by today seems to put the Saunders as the wrong family

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hope Terrace, The Carr, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

William Pettinger Head Married Male 26 1865 Insurance Agent Nottinghamshire, England
Emma Pettinger Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Itteringham, Norfolk, England
William J S Pettinger Son - Male 3 1888 - Aylsham, Norfolk, England
Ruby L Pettinger Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Bertie C Pettinger Son - Male 0 1891 - Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Edward E J Pettinger Brother Single Male 19 1872 Millwright Apprentice Retford, Nottingham


In-law can also refer to step relatives, I've also seen in my own family referring to niece.

I'm confused too- are you looking for a different Emma? Or a different Elizabeth

This is the 1861 though. Why would Ben Saunders's daughter have Alexander as a surname?


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Long Road, Wickmere, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Overton Head Married Male 33 1828 Agricultural Labourer Barningham, Norfolk, England
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Elizabeth Overton Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Overton, Norfolk, England
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William Overton Son - Male 9 1852 - Norfolk, England
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George Overton Son - Male 6 1855 - Norfolk, England
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Jane Overton Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Norfolk, England
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Alfred Overton Son - Male 3 1858 - Wolterton, Norfolk, England
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Susannah Overton Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Wolterton, Norfolk, England
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Benjamin Saunders Father In Law Widower Male 68 1793 Tailor London, Middlesex, England


OK I'm confused :-S :-S I take it this is the wrong family?

My original Emma came from

Marriages Dec 1885
PETTINGER William Aylsham
4b 256

Overton Emma Aylsham
4b 256

and

Births Sep 1865
OVERTON Emma Aylsham
4b 77

It seems from all today's striving, the 1861 census I was given for Elizabeth Overton was the wrong person

(some Alexander and Overton on below)

http://www.itteringham.com/history/itteringham-census-1841.html


(and Baptisms on below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(also)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/itteringham.htm

Chris :)

1901 where Esther has changed back to Elizabeth.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Hart Street, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Overton Head Married Male 74 1827 Retired Bus Driver Norfolk, England
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Elizabeth Overton Wife Married Female 74 1827 - Buxton, Norfolk, England

Possible 1851 for Esther/ Elizabeth?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hay Market, St Peter Mancroft, Norwich, Norfolk, England

George N Mingay Head Married Male 45 1806 Shoe Seller And Glover Norwich, Norfolk
Eliza Mingay Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
Maria Bonds Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 Assistant Norwich, Norfolk
Esther Alexander Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 House Servant Buxton, Norfolk

Alexander surname fits with 1851 marriage.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Common, Itteringham, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

Wm Overton Male 30 1811 Norfolk, England
Susana Overton Female 30 1811 Norfolk, England
John Overton Male 13 1828 Norfolk, England
Ednd Overton Male 7 1834 Norfolk, England
Jane Overton Female 5 1836 Norfolk, England
Alfred Overton Male 2 1839 Norfolk, England
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Hart Street, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

John Overton Head - Male 43 1828 - Barningham, Norfolk,
Elizabeth Overton Wife - Female 43 1828 - Buxton, Norfolk,
Alfred Overton Son - Male 13 1858 - Norfolk, England
Susannah Overton Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Norfolk, England
Sophia Overton Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Norfolk, England
Albert Overton Son - Male 7 1864 - Norfolk, England
Emma Overton Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Overton Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Norfolk, England
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Hart Street, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

John Overton Head Married Male 63 1828 Carrier Norfolk, England
Esther Overton Wife Married Female 66 1825 - Buxton, Norfolk, England
Arthur G Gobbett Lodger Single Male 28 1863 Grocers Assistant East Bergholt, Suffolk