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I do note that Frederick was a lot older than Beatrice ......... 21 years ................



is there any possibility that he could have been married before?

??????????


from the Ellis Island site ......................

Passenger Record

First Name : Beatrice Annie
Last Name : Vincent
Nationality : US Citizen
Last Place of Residence : New York
Date of Arrival : July 31st, 1916
Age at Arrival : 21y
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : New York
Port of Departure : Liverpool
Manifest Line Number : 0011



According to the Ship's manifest, Beatrice was classified as an American Citizen by virtue of her husband's citizenship


and Ruby was also classified American by virtue of her Father's citizenship


It just says they were going to New York, no further information



BUT note that the date of arrival was 1916 ....................


so I am not sure where Mary got the information that Beatrice and Ruby went in 1913 . :-S



If my memory of how the US system works is accurate .................

Beatrice became an American citizen as soon as she married Frederick, and Ruby would have had American citizenship as soon as she was born ......... neither would have needed to take any oaths

Not sure abt this guy:

1891 Census
Piece: RG12/1850 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical Parish: St Martins
Folio: 86 Page: 12 Schedule: 79
Address: Carnarthen Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PEARCE Sarah Head W F 50 House Keeper Cornwall - Redruth
PEARCE Anna Dau S F 20 Milliner(Em'ee) Cornwall - Camborne
PEARCE Sarah Dau S F 18 House Assistant Cornwall - Camborne
PEARCE Samuel Son - M 15 Tin Miner(Em'ee) Cornwall - Camborne
VINCENT Fred Lodger - M 17 Tin Miner(Em'ee) Cornwall - Helston
PEARCE Samuel J Lodger - M 7 Scholar Cornwall - Camborne

Mostly just posting image links

1940
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBQQ-VMF [with image link]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBQQ-XJL [with image link]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBQQ-XG7 [with image link]
Orvel Bastian Head M 40 Utah
Ruby Bastian Wife F 25 England
Ronald Bastian Son M 5 Montana


1930 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCM5-F89
Household ID: 6
Affiliate Film Number: 1258 , GS Film number: 2340993
Image Number: 00438

1920 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M83T-WVB
District: 116 , Sheet Number and Letter: 4B ,
Household ID: 95
GS Film number: 1820972
Image Number: 00513

1900 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM5C-7SF [with image link]
[In a boarding house in Maryville, Belomont Twp, Lewis & Clark Co MT (Maryville is abt 25km NW of Helena).
Fred b Apr 1875, is a quartz miner, like 23 of the 26 boarders.
Nominal census day was 1/6/1900 (actual enumeration was 27/6/1900 here), and Fred has been in the US 3y
The next nominal census dates are 15/4/1910, 1/1/1920, 2/4/1930, 1/4/1940]

For missing images, magnify 4 clicks, then save:
https://archive.org/stream/15thcensus1258unit#page/n434/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu972unit#page/n511/mode/1up


WW1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8QN-LGC [with image link]
[b 14/4/1874]

Marrs
Ru https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3QP-37X [with image link]
Ge https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3WM-282 [with image link]
Jo https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3W3-9BH [with image link]
Ro https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3W5-MY1 [with image link]


d.certs
Fred http://tinyurl.com/nqvgxgm
[s/o John; informant was Bea]
Beatrice Ann http://tinyurl.com/n44neq8
[informant is Rose Kurth]

This information is so much appreciated. Thank you to everyone. George getting married in 1939 explains why he isn't on the 1940 census. I have alot more to work with now and may be I might cime across photos.
Thankyou
Cheryl :-)

Beatrice is on two trees on here belonging to Karen and Jason

John's marriage: (They really make a mess of Beatrice's maiden name)


Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 about John Vincent
Name: John Vincent
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1927
Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1952
Marriage Place: Helena, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Father: Fred Vincent
Mother: Beatrice Singcap
Spouse: Geraldine Rae Jensen
FHL Film Number: 1906508

George's marriage:


Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 about George Vincent
Name: George Vincent
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1917
Marriage Date: 3 Sep 1939
Marriage Place: Cut Bank, Glacier, Montana
Father: Fred Vincent
Mother: Beatrice Cincock
Spouse: Mabel Lahman
FHL Film Number: 1902880

Rose's marriage:


Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 about Rose Vincent
Name: Rose Vincent
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1929
Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1947
Marriage Place: Helena, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Father: Fred Vincent
Mother: Beatrice Sincock
Spouse: Jack Gehring
FHL Film Number: 1906507

Ruby's marriage confirming her mother's maiden name:


Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 about Ruby Vincent
Name: Ruby Vincent
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Age: 33
Birth Date: 1914
Birth Place: England
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1933
Marriage Place: Helena, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Father: Fred Vincent
Mother: Beatrice Sincock
Spouse: Orvil Bastian
FHL Film Number: 1906504

Fred reached a good age too:


Montana, Death Index, 1868-2011 about Fred Vincent
Name: Fred Vincent
Birth Year: abt 1873
Death Date: 31 May 1965
Death County: Lewis and Clark
Age at Death: 92

http://www.findagrave.com/

(Montana on above, has Beatrice)

Chris :)

Beatrice lived to a good age:


Montana, Death Index, 1868-2011 about Beatrice Ann Vincent
Name: Beatrice Ann Vincent
Birth Year: abt 1897
Death Date: 17 Apr 1992
Death County: Lewis and Clark
Age at Death: 95

1940 United States Federal Census about Fred Vincent
Name: Fred Vincent
Respondent: Yes
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Little Prickly Pear, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Rural
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Little Prickly Pear, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 6A
Occupation: Rancher
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 300
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Vincent 66
Beatrice Vincent 47
William Vincent 18
Donald Vincent 16
John Vincent 14
Rose Vincent 11

1930 United States Federal Census about Frederick Vincent
Name: Frederick Vincent
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Little Prickly Pear, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Map of Home: View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1896
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Beatrice A Vincent
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace
:
View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Vincent 55
Beatrice A Vincent 35
Ruby Vincent 15
George F Vincent 13
William A Vincent 8
Donald Vincent 6
John Vincent 4
[4 3/12]
Rose E Vincent 1
[1 4/12]

Do you have this?


1920 United States Federal Census about Frederick Vincent
Name: Frederick Vincent
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Marysville, Lewis and Clark, Montana
Street: County Road
House Number: X
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Beatrice A Vincent
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Machine Man
Industry: Gold Mine
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Vincent 45, immigrated 1896
Beatrice A Vincent 23, immigrated 1913
Ruby Vincent 5, immigrated 1913
George F Vincent 3, born Montana

My goodness this is fantastic information. I think only Ruby was born in England.
I didnt know that there was a possible daughter called Beatrice aswell. Thankyou to all of you. Sometimes I dont know how you do it and so quick.

Cheryl :-)

Fred born 14/4/1874 in Helston went to USA 15/9/1895 left USA 24/1/1913,he was a farmer.

Maryb.

Burial
Day Month 13-Feb
Year 1936
Parish Or Reg District Camborne
Forename William James
Surname SINCOCK
Age 74
Residence Cross Street Camborne
Notes died in Barclays Bank Camborne

(if Father)

Chris :)


http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(from above)


Baptism
County Cornwall
Place St Day
Church Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber 582
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 27 Mar 1890
Forename William Martin
FatherForename William
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname SINCOCK
Abode Scorrier
FatherOccupation Innkeeper

(possible Brother, from below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Arrival in US;


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ruby Vincent
Name: Ruby Vincent
Arrival Date: 31 Jul 1916
Birth Date: abt 1914
Age: 2
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: New York

Frederick, 42
Beatrice Annie, 21
Ruby, 2

Frederick was a US citizen. Citizenship granted Helena, Montana, 27 April 1901.

Edit: Sorry, should have refreshed the page first. You already have that info.