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In case you're still wondering about whether Ellen was Mary Ellen's surname or not -

Ellen was her middle name. She was Mary Ellen Peck, then married George Entwistle.

If you look at Dea's useful roundup of all the information people had posted on your earlier threads (see page 1 of this thread), you'll see their marriage record.

thank you the first lot of info was brill but a lot to take in :) thanxxxx

I am just out for an hour or so too but will catch up when I get back.

Adelle - whatever other info you need on this family - just post on this thread and we will have everything together so that we can help you.

You will be able to find it under 'my threads' to the left of the board.

Dea Xxx

just looking at the siblings now who they marrid when they died

then will move on to

robert george entwistle 1868 grandfather to the siblings

i want to look at roberts children also :)

I'm off to work soon till late but thanxx for your help and time :)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-EAST-YORKS/2002-03/1016063395

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-EAST-YORKS/2001-08/0998651033

(above comes up on a google search, sometimes useful looking round at names!)

Chris :)

(also, not sure if you know of 'Search All Member Trees', found under 'Search' top right of page, you can see if anybody is sharing)

(apologies folks, if already mentioned)

Chris thank you he is from leeds to my mission now get intouch with him ;) :-D

George's father Robert in 1881, now a widower

1881 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Father in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 William St
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tool Smith At Works
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
James Entwistle 26
Ann Entwistle 28
Matilda Entwistle 4
Robert Entwistle 64
Joseph Shawsmith 38
Maria Shawsmith 33
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Iv found this in the thread above who's Matilda entwistle i don't know who the shawsmiths are but Matilda cud be a 12th child?? Or a gran child it can't be James child as that's my nanas dad mayb Joseph and Maria should be entwistles maud could be there child ??

George's father Robert in 1881, now a widower

1881 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Father in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 William St
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tool Smith At Works
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
James Entwistle 26
Ann Entwistle 28
Matilda Entwistle 4
Robert Entwistle 64
Joseph Shawsmith 38
Maria Shawsmith 33
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Record

Iv found this in the thread above who's Matilda entwistle i don't know who the shawsmiths are but Matilda cud be a 12th child?? Or a gran child it can't be James child as that's my nanas dad mayb Joseph and Maria should be entwistles maud could be there child ??

If you look at the image for the 1881 census, you will see that James Entwistle is the Head of the household, Ann is his wife, Matilda his daughter and Robert his father-in-law. So, Robert is Ann's father. Also, there is a \\ next to Robert. That indicates that he is the last one in the household. The Shawsmiths are living next door.

So, looks as if an Entwistle married an Entwistle.

Edit: I think Robert's relationship on the 1881 is wrong - he looks to be James's father (see marriage below) not his father-in-law:


Name:James Entwistle - address 13 Edwin Street; on the 1871 James & Robert are living at 15 Edwin Street

Birth Year:abt 1855
Age:21
Marriage or Bann Date:10 Jul 1876
Parish:Holbeck, St John and St Barnabas
Father's Name:Robert Entwistle
Spouse's Name:Ann Spink Eccles
Spouse's Father's Name:James Eccles

This James is the brother of George who is the father of your James.

Robert George entwistle 1816 his wife Isabelle wilson 1816
there children
ann 1841
jane 1839
william 1837
mary 1849

holroyds hark address and st james place

George must be there son to but can't find the record he is George robert 1856 i think

now looking at Robert's dad john entwistle 1822, SCULCOATES, hull or leeds any leads on his wife would be brilliant :-)

adelle can you clarify that a bit, which John was born 1822? unless I'm missing something I can't find ref to a John

Is this the John you are looking for now Adelle?


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Robert Entwisle
Name: Robert Entwisle
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1813
Baptism Place: Worksop,Nottingham,England
Father: John Entwisle <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 504068, 504070, 504543

Yes I think that's him john entwistle and his wife Mary father of Robert I'm sure that's him coz of Nottingham birth place was lookin to find out more about him his wife his birthday his parents his kids thank you xx :-)

as you get further back it becomes a bit more difficult, as registration of births etc didn't come in until 1837, so it relies on parish records.

I have Robert and Isabella in 1871, and 1851...there is a discrepancy in the ages given for instance

1851 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Entwistle
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: Brewery Field
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 3l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Piece: 2317
Folio: 303
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Entwistle 37
Isabella Entwistle 36
William Entwistle 13
Jane Eliza Entwistle 12
Ann Entwistle 10
Mary Entwistle 2

1871 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Entwistle
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: Brewery Field
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 4521
Folio: 73
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Entwistle 46
Isabella Entwistle 44
John W Entwistle 32
Isabella Entwistle 19
James Entwistle 17
George Entwistle 14
Sarah H Entwistle 6 ( grandaughter)
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and 1841 so you can see the birth date is debateable


The 1841 Census
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1841 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds Town
Hundred: Leeds Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Kirkgate
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1348
Book: 9
Folio: 27
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Entwistle 25
Isabella Entwistle 25
William Entwistle 4
Jane Entwistle 2
Ann Entwistle 3 Mo

thats them wow thankyou so if i want to go further back whats your advice as it seems to get harder due to lack of records :)

Robert's father is john i think i saw that on robert baptism record john and mary?

It IS harder Adelle lol, and not unusual to get stuck at that period, some parish records are online but not all by any means, so then you may have to search in the location, church records for instance.

I have looked at familysearch.org but not found anything yet but it is worth looking at.

will look on here aswel http://www.freebmd.org.uk i don't no how far it goes back thank you xx

Freebmd only goes back to 1837 unfortunately. But it is very useful :-)