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As has been said, Its the index your looking at and not a certificate, Note these records on the index are transcriptions, transcribed by people/humans some of these index images are far from easy to transcribe and that's not taking into account human error so always best to check the actual image that the transcription was taken from,

For just what info you will find on any BMD certificate

see http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm

Roy

You cannot see certs on this site.

All you can see is the INDEX

What you're looking at on this site is not a certificate. It's a transcription of a record which (if the transcription is correct) gives you the information you need to order the relevant certificate from the GRO. But remember to check the original image. As you have seen mistakes are made.

i Was looking at the certificate on this site i have just ordered the marriage certificate from the GOV Site lets see what it shows me thanks again for all your patience and help Regards Michael

Michael

Buy the 1878 marriage cert.....................get some factual info, instead of guessing.

It's your guessing which has caused your confusion

And, Jude....................no, there is no death recorded for Thomas prior to Sarah's second marriage.

Jude, I think he got the 1844 birth by doing a search on this site. However, there was an error in the transcription which gave the wrong name.
Michael, in your opening post you refer to a certificate. Now you say you don't have one?

Thanks for that ihave no certificate but to stop my confusion i will get one Regards Michael

Michael - you are not answering any of the questions though.

Where have you got 1844 from for your birth of Thomas? You say you have a birth certificate - do you? If so, who is the father named on this certificate? And the mother?

What is the exact date of birth?

And as has been suggested, if you don't have marriage certificate to Sarah...get it?



Jude

Thankyou all for your help and time to post in SAFC message it shows that i was right regarding Thomas H Todd and the Parish records

Silly question???

1881 Sarah is Head....status certainly doesn't say married...but can't say for sure that she is a widow...

But can anyone find a death for Thomas (irrespective of his age)?

I can't!!

I have checked the actual image for the 1844 birth and it definitely says William,

Never accept a transcription as 100% accurate always checking the image.

Roy

Michael the middle name is Hopkin without the s, I don't think the fact that Sarah then married Hopkins is relevant to that middle name at all

1891 Wales Census about Charles Hopkins
Name: Charles Hopkins
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hopkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Hasth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Roath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Germans
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 14b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4389
Folio: 98
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hopkins 32
Sarah Hopkins 29
Thomas H Todd 11
Edith Hopkins 2/12

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There seems to be a transcription error on here and FMP. The transcription says Thomas Todd; but the original image says William Todd. So his name wasn't Thomas; it was William :-)

Births Jun 1844
Todd William Merthyr Tydfil 26 410

as posted before, so that seems to be the confusion. Definitely William on freebmd

I'm sure you're only guessing about the birth year of 1844...............

Michael

Haven't you looked at the info posted on here?

Please do so................on both pages of your thread

Sarah E Payne wa omly married to Thomas Todd for about 8 years then she married Charles H Hopkins 1886 and in the 1901 census it shows Thomas Hopkin Todd step son so im thinking that they put Hopkin as his middle name i might be wrong thanks regards confused Michael

Missed that PP...................

Michael.................

Simple solution..............

Buy the 1878 marriage cert................

Civil registration event: Birth

View the original image
Name:TODD, Thomas

Registration district: [?]Merthyr Tydfil

County:Glamorganshire

Year of registration:1844

Quarter of registration:Apr-May-Jun

Mother's maiden name:Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]26

Page no:[?]410

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Reggie, Michael posted today 27 Jun 2013 12:34 where he states,
Thomas Todd 1844 Married Sarah E Payne 1862 In 1878 had a son Thomas Hopkin Todd 1880

Seem odd that his son should be named Thomas (Hopkin) Todd if their is no connection to Thomas (Hopkin) Todd born (1855)

first born are often named after a parent

also as Graham said 26 Jun 2013 08:59
if the birth certificate gives the wrong name, what makes you think it is the right birth certificate



Roy