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Vera

Vera Report 2 Aug 2012 14:02

John L BEDDINGTON
Date of departure: 26 July 1919
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Calcutta, India
Passenger destination: Calcutta, India

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Clerk
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 9





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Olivia M BEDDINGTON Page 4 of 9 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
CITY OF LONDON
124162
Elliott
Ellermans City Line
Calcutta, India

5682
229

regards vera

Vera

Vera Report 2 Aug 2012 15:00

Olivia Beddington
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 29
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1927
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Shanghai
[Kobe]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Malwa
Search Ship Database: View the 'Malwa' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsular & Orient Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 127543

Address 47, Eloncester??? Street, London SW 1


Carol Beddington 43/4

Regards Vera

tempest

tempest Report 2 Aug 2012 15:13

???

Death transcript details

Name: BEDDINGTON, Olivia M
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1966
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:68
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 745

tempest

tempest Report 2 Aug 2012 15:17

passenger transcript details

Name: Olivia BEDDINGTON
Date of departure: 3 January 1936
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age)
Age: 38
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Hwife
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 16


Ship: AQUITANIA
Official Number: 135583
Master's name: R B Irving
Steamship Line: Cunard White Star Limited
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 20800
Passengers on voyage: 254

last address in UK was Asiatic Petroleum Co London EC






tempest

tempest Report 2 Aug 2012 15:22

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Olivia Margaret Beddington
Name: Olivia Margaret Beddington
Probate Date: 4 Apr 1966
Death Date: 6 Mar 1966
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

Beddongton Olivia Margaret of 19 Culford Mansions Culford Gardens London SW3 died 6 March 1966 Probate London 4 April to Carol Lobb Married woman £20063

tempest

tempest Report 2 Aug 2012 15:26

marriage in 1960 in Chelsea for Carol Beddington and Christopher Lobb

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 2 Aug 2012 16:37

Wow how do you find all this information and so quickly! t's taken me several hours just finding and printing the freeBMD records I had missing.

The Flemming family are closely involved with William but we can't find a family tie. My father has been in touch with Peter Reid - Bertie and Ellen Flemming's son (emailed photos to confirm who the members of his family are) and Carol Skipper - John H Flemming's daughter from a second marriage. I even visited the graves of Walter and Edith Flemming. I was told that William Owen H Flemming emigrated, came home then emigrated again. I think I found a record for him going to Melbourne in 1957. Interesting that he is listed as a missionary in 1939.

My father doesn't think his father got married whilst in the Navy - too complicated he thinks, from his own RAF experiences...However, my father always thought that his dad was Welsh because everyone called him Taffy. I haven't discovered any Welsh family yet!

Thank-you to everyone who has contributed...I'm now going to work my way through all the information you have found for me!

tempest

tempest Report 2 Aug 2012 16:47

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John Louis Beddington
Name: John Louis Beddington
Probate Date: 23 Jun 1959
Death Date: 13 Apr 1959
Death Place: Oxfordshire, England
Registry: London, England

Beddington John Louis CBE of Little Hampton Place Brampton Oxfordshire died 13 April 1959 at 22 Knightsbridge Court London SW1 probate London 23 June to Olivia Margaret Beddington widow and Carol Beddington Spinster Effects £28408 19s 5d

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 2 Aug 2012 16:50

By the way - I have another (possibly wedding) photo of a couple taken in 1936. The woman looks very like the one in a picture with Veronica, so could be her sister. The man is in a sailor uniform. I found 2 Beddington weddings in 1936; Doreen G to William Keegan and Lillian M to Alfred W Beddis. I found births for both women (mother Popejoy, 1920 and mother Leadbeater 1916) but couldn't find a birth for Veronica by the same mother.

There are no photos of William and Veronica together.

...I wish there were names on the backs of all these photos!

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 2 Aug 2012 17:34

To brummiejan - a little while ago I found a photo of a baby with Janet Ansell on the reverse. From that I managed to find 7 possible children (incl. John Ansell born 1936) of Effie's. When I joined a few days ago I found that a John Ansell also had Effie in his tree. I have messaged him and am eagerly waiting for a reply!

Thanks again for your interest and help.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 2 Aug 2012 17:39

could this be a connection

Birth Record Name Max V Beddington
Year of Registration 1917
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Westbury on Severn
Registration County Gloucestershire
Mother's maiden name Popejoy
Volume Number 6A
Volume Page 403

Mary

Mary Report 2 Aug 2012 19:03

The above was a guy Max Vallander Beddington 25/3/1917 died 1997.

Maryb

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 4 Aug 2012 14:14

Veronica Watkins' death certificate has arrived...I don't understand what's going on!
Firstly, I went to double check my Father's birth certificate yesterday incase it was a copy and the name Beddington had been transcribed wrongly. However, it was the 1936 original and his mother's maiden name clearly looks correct.

Now to the death certificate:
When & where died : Sixteenth February 1938, Grove Park Hospital, Mottingham, Chislehurst and Sidcup RD (*might not be 'RD'*)
Name and surname: Veronica Mullender (otherwise Watkins)
Sex: Female
Age: 85 (* the first number isn't too clear*)
Occupation: of the Fire Station, High Street, Hommerton E9, wife of Alfred Mullender a Lance Corporal 1st Royal West Kent Regiment
Cause of Death: **Pulmonary Tuberculosis Certified by C E Garrod MB (*not sure of letters in the last name*)
Signature, description and residence of informant: W F Watkins present at the death. The Fire Station, High Street, Homerton E9
When registered: Seventeenth February 1938
Signature of registrar: SCG (*?*) Swain Deputy Registrar.

Ideas?

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2012 14:30

sounds like Veronica was married to Mr Mullender and then they seperated, Veronica then having your father to W F Watkins

just looking to see if I can find anything

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 4 Aug 2012 14:55

Looking at the age, I'm sure it can't be 85. There are two other handwritten '8's on the page and they are clearly different. So possibly the age is 35?

Helen

Helen Report 4 Aug 2012 15:00

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Veronica Mullender
Name: Veronica Mullender
Birth Date: abt 1913
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1938
Age at Death: 25
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1003

Mary

Mary Report 4 Aug 2012 15:03

Thats the same one Helen as the Volume and page number are the same.

Maryb.

Helen

Helen Report 4 Aug 2012 15:06

Yes, its clear on that one, she was 25

Mary

Mary Report 4 Aug 2012 15:39

Still can't find her birth or marriage to Alfred Mullender.

Maryb.

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 4 Aug 2012 15:45

Thank-you! I didn't think to search death records for a Veronica Mullender. I've tried looking for a marriage record for Veronica and Alfred, but can't find anything. I wanted to know Veronica's Maiden name. I've also now messaged everyone one with an Alfred Mullender (of an appropriate age) in their family tree!

I always wondered why my grandfather was left to bring up a baby on his own, without the help of any relatives (only friends). If the baby was from an affair, maybe the family disapproved? My grandfather never re-married, or even married..as it turns out!