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Can this one in 1881 be discounted by somebody?? I know it doesnt quite match up, but we have seen all sorts of scenarios!

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Deborah ROWLINGSON (Head) ((Mother)) W Female 42 Barnardistan, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Henry ROWLINGSON Son U Male 17 Gt Wratting, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Charles ROWLINGSON Son U Male 15 Gt Wratting, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
George ROWLINGSON Son U Male 13 Gt Wratting, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Laura ROWLINGSON Daur Female 7 Gt Wratting, Suffolk, England Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling Street
Census Place Great Wratting, Suffolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341441
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1822 / 76
Page Number 5

hello,

Robert is living with his son William at 5 alice street (i think in the 1881 census)...his name is recorded as being Rawlinson. Defo him as his son is listed as being a French polisher and Robert as a warehouse man from leyland.

nothing however after the 1881 census for robert.

suzanne

Do you have anything on them after 1871, as I cannot find a trace. Is there any chance they emigrated??
Jan

think i will order Robert Gormall Rowlandson death certificate and hope that is the right one....loathed to spend £9.25 but think its the only way i will find out!

Thanks everyone for your help....again

Suzanne

sorry... mid 1860's.....1863 to either elizabeth shaw or catherine jones.

suzanne

Is there? Where is that?
Jan

I am unsure if this is the same Robert as there is a marriage for Robert Gornell Rowlandson in the mid 1870s to another women and none of the records gbive Robert a middle initials .

Thanks Suzanne

That would explain the second birth cert but can't understand why they would get married 20 years later.
On the 1861 census Deborah is listed as being single and living with her son. On the 1871 census she is living with Robert and classed as married. I am unable to find her on any census before or after these dates.

Suzanne

Might he have died? I see he was born 1836:

Deaths Jun 1883 (>99%)
ROWLANDSON Robert Gornell 49 W.Derby 8b 390

I think a 2nd birth cert is issued if the father comes forward and acknowledges the child.
Jan

Yes it is them.

Thanks Suzanne

Is this the couple??

1871 England Census
Name: Deborah Rowlandson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Rowlandson
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen the Martyr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 39

Robert Rowlandson 35
Deborah Rowlandson 39
Henry Rowlandson 10

Hello Ann,

Yes thats them!.... they lived together in 1871 and on their sons birth certificate he is listed as the father and being married to deborah in1859 but their son had 2 birth certificates. the first registered on the 21.05.1859 and he is stated as being illigitimate and deborah unmarried, yet on the 8th june 1859 he is listed as having robert rowlandson as his father....defo something not right there.

Suzanne

Robert Rowlandson
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Liverpool,? Lancashire
census: 1911 Toxteth Park,? Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England


name: Robert Rowlandson
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 20
birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Toxteth Park
sub-district: Toxteth Park South West
parish: Toxteth Park
county: Lancashire

I have checked indexes 'manually' for 1st 2 quarter 1880 and no sign of Deborah Peelow.
Jan

On many Rawlandson records, it is registered as rowlinson, rawlinson, rollinson,rowlandson and even rollingson.

Any of the above but still unable to trace.

is it possible that when the banns say marriage 08.01.1880, they didnt actually get married on that day.....or ever?

Suzanne

found this one but dates not right

Deborah Rowlandson
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1832 Liverpool
residence: 1871 West Derby,? Lancashire,? England


name: Deborah Rowlandson
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 39
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Liverpool
record type: Household
registration district: West Derby
sub-district: West Derby
event parish: West Derby
county: Lancashire

well I can't find anyone with the surname Peelow - could it be Pellow?

And could it Rowlandson?

Hello,

Have checked Freebmd and Lancashire BMD and nothing on them. On Ancestry the details are listed under banns read from parish records, so no reference on them. :-(

Suzanne

I wonder if they actually married - what Suzanne has seen comes under 'marriages and banns'.
Jan