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Interesting what a close connection the minister John W Sampson had with that family!

Executor on most of their wills, obviously family friend.




sylvia

Good Morning Ozibird thank you for that .That finishes Sarah's line as she had not children at all

1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Luscombe
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Luscombe
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Compton Gifford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Compton Hall

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
Piece: 1431
Folio: 83
Household Members: Name Age
William Luscombe 50 - __[?] Consul of Netherlands; Plymouth
Sarah Luscombe 41
Elizth Colwell 47 - Housekeeper
Ann Gardner 36 - Lady's Maid
Lavinia Frand 20 - Servant
Susan Trethewey 17 - Servant
Willm Templeman 20 - Footman


1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Luscombe
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Luscombe
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Compton Gifford
Town: Compton Gifford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Compton Leigh

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
Piece: 2109
Folio: 75
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
William Luscombe 60 - Merchant
Sarah Luscombe 50
Elizabeth Garkener 58 - Housekeeper
Ann E Colwell 47 - Domestic
Louisa Hessay 19 - Domestic
Luke Oshaughasy 55 - Coachman
Edward Colton 14 - Page




1881 England Census
Name: Sarah Luscombe
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Luscombe
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Compton Gifford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Mannamead
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
Piece: 2188
Folio: 29
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William Luscombe 70 - Justice Of The Peace (Other Local)
Sarah Luscombe 60
Elizabeth Gardener 70 - House Keeper
Amelia Ledson 22 - Housemaid
Grace E. Waincott 16 - Kitchen Maid
John Northmore 24 - Footman



1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Luscombe
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Compton Gifford
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
Town: Compton Gifford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Living on her own means

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
Piece: 1723
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Luscombe 70
Sophia D Oaril 61 - Companion
Elizabeth Gardner 80 - Housekeeper
Henrietta Pike 42 - Housemaid
Mary Tregenna 25 - Cook
William H Coney Geer 25 - Footman
John W Sampson 71 - Guest; Congregational Minister
Sarah Sampson 71 - Guest


Deaths Sep 1897 Luscombe Sarah 77 Plymouth 5b 141

It is 8 am, there and Queensland has to vote today , I'm realy over it all . So I'll be away for 1 or 2 hours
Sheila :-\ :-S

Chrisse, No I could not read the word it was a long word in a small box,

---- There are now so many questions but I think I should ask while you are all on a roll Vice Admiral Monday had a brother called Henry Monday born 30 July 1794 in Ashburton Devon (?) can you please tell me who he married ,it's to early for freebmd and that is all I have

Sarah could realy pick them , It was only a couple of years after William Oakes died she married her William No 2
Sheila :-D

Good Morning all From Tropical North Queensland.
Good Heavens, all this info: I dont know where it all came from I did ask OH last night how much the money would be in todays rates It takes you breath away. I can tell you it none of it lasted to get here LOL

Royal Cornwall Gazette - Fri 03 Sep 1858

In the Marriages section:

On 24th ult., at Charles Church, Plymouth, William Luscombe Esq., his Netherland Majesty's Vice Consul, at Plymouth to Sarah, second daughter of Admiral Monday and relict of William Oakes, Esq, late of Patch Court, Somersetshire and Shirland House, Derbyshire.

** Got to go now, but will look up the rest tomorrow, if no-one else has.

Mightily impressed with all the work done. :-D

I tried earlier with absolutely no luck. Good lateral thinking, Syl, to go to the newspapers.

Ozi

It is a 'flippin fortune' Sylvs - by todays value it would be £3557700.00 !!!

Dea Xxx

Elizabeth Hardstaff died in 1886, leaving a personal estate of £2,165 3s 1d

This looks like his baptism


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Henry Hardstaff

Name: Henry Hardstaff
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1802
Christening Date: 27 Aug 1802
Christening Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Mother's Name: Mary Hardstaff

hmmmmmmmmmm


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Henry Hardstaff

Name: Henry Hardstaff
Probate Date: 9 Mar 1872
Death Date: 13 Jan 1872
Death Place: Somerset, England
Registry: Principal Registry


from image:-

The Will with a Codicil of Henry Hardstaff, late of Hache [sic] Court in the Parish of Hatch Beauchamp in the County of Somerset, Gentleman, who died 13 January 1872 at Hache [sic] Court, was proved at the Principal Registry by Elizabeth Hardstaff of Hache Court, Widow, the Relict, the sole Executrix.
Effects under £45,000



a flippin' fortune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Henry Hardstaff appears to have been a very trusted employee ... he's on both the 1841 and 1851 censuses

In fact, he's Head and Landed Proprietor at Hatch Beauchamp in 1861 :-D


1861 Census

Name: Henry Hardstaff
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizebeth Hardstaff
Gender: Male
Where born: Munsfeild, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Hatch Beauchamp
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: North Curry

Henry Hardstaff 59 Landed Proprieter
Elizebeth Hardstaff 43 b.ca 1818, Shirland, Derbyshire
Richard H Hardstaff 5
Martha E Hardstaff 4
Gertude C Hardstaff 3
Eliza B Escott 34
Adelaide Palmer 28
Louisa Palmer 26
Mary C Humphreys 16
Sarah Pinney 22
Robert Bryant 20



all non-Hardstaff are servants


Ooooh, I would love to see that will !!!!!!


In 1851, he is shown as Servant, and I think as M.S. in 1841 (very faint)



so a quick rise in status!!



sylvia

Lol Sylvia, you know us all too well!.

Just to add the Occupation of Daniel Woolhouse on the Marriage Cert. says Gentleman, (Find My Past have the actual images) think somewhere Sheila said she couldn't make it out...


Also, noted Executor to his Will was Henry Hardstaff (found in index to death duty registers 1796 - 1903 Find My Past)

All very interesting!.

Chris :)

well done, Chris & Choccy!!

I hoped someone would take what I found and run with it :-D


Interesting that Sarah is not mentioned on that tablet ..... or was that common in those days??




sylvia

Burial
Day:28
Month:Jan
Year:1848
Birth day:
Birth month:
Birth year:
Age:76
Forenames:Mary
Surname:OAKES
Place:Hatch Beauchamp
Dedication:St John the Baptist
County:Somerset
Country:England
Type:Marble Tablet
Reference:22
Notes:In her 77th year. Wife of William.
Record source:Somerset Memorial Inscriptions
Data provider:Somerset & Dorset Family History Society


'During the early 19th century Hatch Court had many different occupiers. From 1838 to 1855 William Oakes owned it He was a churchwarden and there is a memorial to him in the west porch'

Chris :)


Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Derby Mercury (Derby, England), Wednesday, September 12, 1855

(according to death in above, says he went to London, for benefit of his health, after a few months illness, which he bore with Christian fortitude)


edits (a few lovely views of Church on google images)

Not sure why it says Mary as his wife on the burial record - sorry.

Sorry Sheila - didn't realise you were in a different time zone :-D

DO let us know on here what it contains when you get it.

Nite nite,

Dea x

Dea, No - it is 11.15 pm and I am now of to bed Nite Nite x :-)

Did you get the will yet?

Was there any useful info in there?

Dea x