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Thank you all, Janet

I'm wondering about this
1901 Irlam Lancashire D29 > 14
Henry King 1863 tupton derbyshire labourer in soap factory.parents Thomas and Lucy.
Julia King 1859 Bishop Stortford
Julia Ellen King (Wenham)??19 tottenham Middlesex

next door
George Wenham born @ 1877 Essex labourer in soap factory.
Mary wenham 20 wife born Irlam Lancs.

Maryb.

EDIT Julia Ellen Wenham married Barton Upon Irwell lancs J/A/S 1908 8c 1216 to John Liddel Hope.born @ 1881 Cumberland.
1911 2,Delemer Road Flixton lancs
John Leddell Hope.
Julia Ellen/Ellen Julia born Totenham.

1911 14,Dixon St Irlam
George Thomas Wenham born 1880 Saffron Walden Essex (off 1901 census given above)
Mary 1882 Iralm married 11 years 7 children born 1 died.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Julia Annie Hale
Name: Julia Annie Hale
Spouse Name: George Wenham
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Feb 1880 *****************
Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Hale
Spouse Father Name: George Wenham Deceased*****
Register Type: Parish Register

is this the birth you have
Births Dec 1855
Wenham George Thomas Ware 3a 145

death?
Deaths Dec 1903
Wenham George Thomas 47 Dartford 2a 302

Julia Annie Welham married Thomas King in 1907.

I thought that could be the one off 1881,but a tree has that George as born 1846 Clapham Surrey to George and Sarah Wenham.

1861 census has Julia Annie as Annie J,and as she was born Bishop Stortford that aslo fits with place of birth for the J Wenham 1881.

Maryb.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Julia Annie Hale
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1856
Registration district: Bishop's Stortford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 182


1871 England Census
Name: Julian A Hale
[Julia A Hale]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James E Hale
Mother's name: Julia Hale
Gender: Female
Where born: Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Saffron Walden
Town: Saffron Walden
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Saffron Walden
Sub-registration district: Saffron Walden
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 1709
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
James E Hale 50
Julia Hale 40
Julian A Hale 14
Mary M Hale 13
Rosa Hale 12
Agnes Hale 10
Ellen Hale 8
Gertrude Hale 6
Emma Hale 1



Marriages Mar 1880
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Chamberlain Mary Ann Bethnal Green 1c 321
Hale Julia Annie Bethnal Green 1c 321 <<<<<<<<<<
HUNT William Bethnal Green 1c 321
Wenham George Bethnal Green 1c 321 <<<<<<<<<<


Now, did George marry Julia Hale? I cant see Julia after her marriage on the censuses, maybe she is the one that is showing with just the initial on the 1881 that has been posted

Thanks Jan will check it out, many thanks

GEORGE THOMAS WENHAM
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
07 OCT 1855 Great Amwell, Hertford, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS WENHAM
Family
Mother: MARY ANNE

If you want to check family search site you will see other children

https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bbatch_number%3AC072371

Thanks Shirley

1841 note its Great Armwell area so the right family
Name: Mary Byott
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Great Amwell
Hundred: Hertford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:Stanstead Valley

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ware
Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 444
Book: 9
Folio: 36
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Byott 50 looks like occ is Beer Shop!!
Honor Byott 50
James Byott 20
Charles Byott 15
Ellen Byott 15
John Byott 15
Mary Byott 13

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 444; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Great Amwell; County: Hertfordshire; Enumeration

Thank you all for the information you have given me.


Jante

Marriages Mar 1852
Byott Mary Ann St George Hanover Square 1a 239
Wenham Thomas St George Hanover Square 1a 239

The actual marriage cert has her as Wenham and the marriage as 1869 not 1870 have done transcription error report

Thank you Mel

Widower and widow.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Francis Riches
Name: Francis Riches
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Wenhaus
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Oct 1870 *************
Parish: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: David Riches
Spouse Father Name: John Byott ************
Register Type: Parish Register

No it says batchelor

Deleted that census and marriage as it is defo a different family as Ive traced them back and forward

Could be, I could send off for the birth cert, that should give me info on parents

Wonder if E dau on the 1881 is this one right reg district

Births Dec 1880
WENHAM Julia Ellen Edmonton 3a 263

may have been named after Mum