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OK, looking at Isaac Dunn and Letitia again..... this looks like their marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Mar 1861
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Bishop Letitia Stourbridge 6c 157
Dunn Isaac Stourbridge 6c 157


The Letitia remarries;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1868
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Dunn Letitia Dudley 6c 14
LEES John Dudley 6c 14


This is her with Isaac Jnr in 1871;

1871 England Census
about Emily Bishop Name: Emily Bishop
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Bishop
Mother's name: Hannah Bishop
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Brockmoor
Town: Brierly Hill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 3027
Folio: 141
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bishop 55
Hannah Bishop 54
Lettica Lees 29
Harriett Bishop 13
Isaac Bishop 10 >> Born Dudley
Emily Bishop 8
Henry Bishop 7
Walter Bishop 5
John Bishop 2
Sharcott Sadler 25


Now his sister Emily is born in the same place as Emily who married Thomas W Judge.

Now I can't trace any of the above family after 1871, so I think if I were you I would get the marriage cert for Thomas and Emily.


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Looking at the children for Issac and Letitia;

Name: Annie Letitia Shaw Dunn
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Jan 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 05 Nov 1867
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Dunn
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Letitia
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-8
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 378785
Reference Number:


Her middle name Shaw maybe the link??

Still trying to tie Isaac or wifes into the Judge family....... his death doesn't help!!

Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
about Isaac Dunn Name: Isaac Dunn
Death Date: 16 Feb 1958
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 97 Years
Birth Date: abt 1861
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Jane
State File #: 02159
Residence : Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Race: White

Hi baptism;

Name: Isaac Dunn
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 May 1864
Baptism/Christening Place: Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1860
Birthplace: Dudley
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Dunn
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Letitia
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00426-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040916
Reference Number:


His mothers name maybe of interest??

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Isaac F Dunn Name: Isaac F Dunn
Arrival Date: 8 Oct 1908
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: dudley
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caronia
Search Ship Database: Search the Caronia in the

Travelling with wife Jane, who also was born Dudley

Looks like Isaac was married before!!

1900 United States Federal Census
about Isick F Dunn Name: Isick F Dunn
[Tsick F Dunn]
Home in 1900: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
[Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut]
Age: 39
Birth Date: Jun 1860
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: Mary E Dunn
Marriage year: 1883
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 17
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Isick F Dunn 39
Mary E Dunn 42 >> Born May 1858, England

The nominal census date was 1/6/1850, so they should not appear on the 1850 census. I don't see them on the 1860 (nominal date of 1/6/1860), so I guess Eliz returned with her kids to stay with rellies in the UK.

You say Eliz was a widow in 1861. I would believe Stephen was dead, and just cos he wasn't explicitly named as deceased on his daur's m.cert wouldn't change my opinion. I've heard this lack of "deceased" was not uncommon, but I've not seen enough English m.certs with a dead father for me to say how common it actually was.

Thanks Margee,
I guess that means they are both English but married in USA. Is it possible to find Jane's maiden name?
Barry

The Dunns must have married in America? On the 1910 census they say they've been married for 27 years which would make it 1883 and it says that he emigrated 188l and she 1883.

Yes Margee that's them. He was listed as farmer.
Barry

Is this Stephen's arrival in USA? He's with Elizabeth.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Stephen Judge Name: Stephen Judge
Arrival Date: 3 Jul 1850
Birth Year: abt 1826
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ashburton

My great grandmother Fanny Louisa Judge was born in New York to English migrant parents about 1855. Her parents were Stephen Judge and Elizabeth Browne from Willesborough in Kent. Her siblings were Thomas William Judge b. c1852 and Annie Maria Judge b. c1857. Elizabeth and the three children are back in Kent with her father in 1861 and she is listed as a widow. When Fanny married my great grandfather James Henry Wood in 1875, her father is listed as Stephen Judge, gentleman – not deceased!
So, first question - did he die or did he stay in the USA and maybe fight in the civil war? Is there any way to find out?
Thomas married Bertha Harvey in Dover in 1873 and they had 8 children together – the first 3 born in London, then 2 in Kent, one in Bootle, Lancs in 1885. Then according to the 1901 census (Bertha died in 1892 and Thomas is married to Emily Shaw) they have a daughter Letitia born in New York in 1886. Their last child was Cecil Stanley Judge b. June 1890 in Cambridge, England
Could anyone with access to passenger lists please have a look for them going or returning either side of Letitia’s birth.?
Letitia arrived back in New York on May 5th 1909 – US citizen, single.
In the 1910 US federal census she is living in Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut with Isaac and Jane Dunn – listed as their neice.
I don’t know who the Dunn’s are!
Barry