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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Lucy Swift
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 7 Dec 1879
Father's Name: David Swift
Mother's Name: Eliza Swift
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southall St John
Borough: Ealing

In the column after Swift it says Commonly called Miller!!!! he is a boatman. Their address is Frog's Island.

Yes you have to have the right sub.

I have to go out with my other half in a min but will continue on my return.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Ann Swift Name: Mary Ann Swift
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1862
Father's Name: Davis Swift BOAT ON CANAL
Mother's Name: Eliza Swift
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster

Hi Again

Is this London Englans births and baptisms on Ancestry, where you have to pay?

Hi Mel Fairy Godmother

Thank you I did see it. Now this post is interesting, but how do I know if its the right one?

I wonder if when asked where he came from he said Buckingham?

There is a David Swift baptised here and his mother is Ann Maria Swift and it says he is illigitamate.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: David Swift
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date 1823
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1823
Mother's Name: Ann Maria Swift
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Swift Name: William Swift
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date 11 Aug 1859*******************
Baptism Date: 11 Sep 1859
Father's Name: David Swift Labourer
Mother's Name: Eliza Swift
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

I have already put up the marriage of Eliza Nixon to David Swift.

Has nobody seen it!!

8.41am.

On Williams birth certificate it says mother, Eliza Swift formerly Nixon and David's profession was a boatman.

I am so sorry I missed both your postings. I will answer shortly.

Barbara, did any of his children marry actually in London? We could have a look to see if they're on the London marriage records.

So William was born as William Swift in 1857, even though his parents did not marry until 1881?
What was David's profession then?
Thanks.

Marieceleste
I think I may have to purchase the marriage certs for his children, I do have William's marriage cert but not much info on there.

Hi Patchem That is the correct birth for William. His mother was Eliza Nixon.

Here's the 1911, for reference:

SWIFT, Eliza Head Widow F 74 1837 Old Age Pension Dont Know
SWIFT, Caroline Daughter Single F 42 1869 Char Woman North Hyde Parish on London
SWIFT, Harriet Daughter Single F 38 1873 Needlework North Hyde
SWIFT, Rosie Lily Granddaughter F 18 1893 Dress Making Outdoor Paddington
HUNT, Caroline Granddaughter F 12 1899 School Hanwell
HUNT, Annie Granddaughter F 10 1901 School Hanwell
HUNT, James Grandson M 6 1905 At Home Hanwell
FOX, Frank Boarder M 20 1891 Labourer Undertaker Hanwell

Registration District: Brentford Sub District: Hanwell Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Hanwell

Address: 32a Lawn Gardens Hanwell County: Middlesex

The return was completed by Caroline and says that Eliza had 8 children, all of whom survived. Under the "Not Known" for Eliza's bithplace someone (the census officer?) has written "possibly North London"

Hello Barbara, this is a mystery to get our teeth into!

I'm wondering if David changed his name at some point (has been known to happen) - can't see him before 1871.

Just wondering if the marriages of his children might give any clues.

Possibly:
Births Dec 1857
Swift William Marylebone 1a 432

Is that the correct birth?
If so, who is the Mother?
Thanks

William Swift was my great grandfather I have managed to get his birth certificate, its the elusive David Swift, his father I cannot trace where he was born. any ideas what I can do?

Hmm yes Patchem its interesting!

In 1891 there are 2 daughters : Harriet Swift 18, Matilda Swift 17,
in 1901 there again: Harriet Swift 27, Matilda Swift 25
In 1881 there is a Matilda Johnson 16 - co-incidence? And where is Harriet?

Added:
This family in 1881:
1881 England Census
William Swift
Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son (Head) (Head) Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Heston County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Canal Side
Occupation: Boatman Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14
William Swift 23
Elzia Swift 21
Ann M. Swift 13
Henery Swift 11
Harriet Swift 8
Matilda Swift 5
George Plek 14
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1339; Folio: 98; Page: 26; GSU roll: 1341326.