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It seems now that in 1911 they are all living in Paddington at Grittleton Road, Still wondering how many children Walter and Marie had though, seems as though Marie's mother Mary had her fair share, nine, five still living in 1911 and four had died, how tragic.

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Kathryn

Great stuff thank you, still wondering what happened to Walter Edward Day born 1881 and found living in Letchworth in the 1911 census. Could anyone please find a death for him. Perhaps the family said he'd either died or was lost at sea to cover themselves as it appears he left his family at some point for whatever reason.

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Kathryn

Sorry. Feeding time at the zoo here.

Thanks,Flick. I was going to ask if young Marie survived.
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Kathryn-it's really tough to search the 1911 by neighbourhood as it's one page per family. I didn't see any likely people in the surrounds,though.
At 56 Borthwick in 1911 are Smiths and Lords. None seem related to yours.

And 1901 44 Charteris Rd are Elizabeth and Clifford Morris with a servant Mabel Heywood.

Maureen

Name: Marie Helene Rabette
Birth Date: 2 May 1905
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 2091
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Name: Edward Gerrard Rabette
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1989
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Kensington and Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 13
Page: 1478

Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
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Rabette Michael Day Marylebone 1a 721

Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%)
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Day Marie H Rabett[es] Paddington 1a 67
Rabette Edward G Day Paddington 1a 67

Patricia, I have sent you a private message.

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Kathryn

I seem to have missed a part I think

I have just found this link


I beleive I have found Alfred and Mary Noel on the 1911 census..with them is son Alfred age 11 and Walter then another middle name ? Noel grandson age 8 living at 21 Folkstone Road ...This is written out in his own handwriting

FamilySearch.org

Just had a thought, ouch that hurt, at the 21 Grittleton Road address does it show any other families living there. Out of interest does the name Rabette or Rabett show up please? It's just that the other side of my family, on my mother's side, I was adopted as a child so am really interested in tracing all my family, my mother was born a Rabette and I know that at one stage this address was given for my grandfather?

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Kathryn

Walter Day
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1881 — Camden Town, London
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 31 Mar 1901 — Tottenham, Middlesex, England
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:



Walter Day
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1881 — London
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 31 Mar 1901 — North Manchester, Lancashire, England
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:



Edward Day
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1881 — Bow, London
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 31 Mar 1901 — Basingstoke, Hampshire, England

???


Walter Day
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1881 — Islington, London
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 31 Mar 1901 — Islington, London, Middlesex, England
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Walter Day
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Boarder
birthplace: Islington, London
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Lower Holloway
ecclesiastical parish: St James
civil parish: Islington
county: Islington, Lower Holloway, Islington, London, Middlesex

U.D. stands for Urban District.

I am getting really confused now, will have to take time and digest all this info. Maureen, is the last child at 21 Grittleton Road, Noel, Walter Day born 1903 the son of Walter and Marie then, if it is then he has been sent to live with the grandparents? Did you note I found a child Marie Helene born 1905 to Walter and Marie Day?

This mystery gets better, who needs Poirot!! You're all great.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Hi, these are the addresses I have come up with between 1901 and 1905, 44 Charteris Road, Islington N4 and 56 Borthwick Road U.D whatever the U.D. stands for but it is in the sub district of Hendon in the country of Middlesex.

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Kathryn

Right. So he's obviously the 1882 birth in Essex. I keep crossing paths with the Walter Edward Thomas chap.

Oh bleep.................
1911 census transcription details for: 21 Grittleton Road Paddington W
RG14PN25 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED25 SN186


Reg. District: Paddington Sub District: Paddington North
Parish: Paddington Enum. District: 25
Address: 21 Grittleton Road Paddington W
County: London

NOEL, Alfred Head Married M 49 1862 Policeman Boulogne Sur Met France
NOEL, Mary Wife Married
28 years F 44 1867 Hartlepool
NOEL, Alfred Son M 11 1900 School London Fulham
NOEL, Walter Day Grandson M 8 1903 School London Woolwich


Maureen

Kathryn, just as some people in this century insist on putting their religion as Jedi (possibly inaccurately), people years ago made mistakes in census, or put single incorrectly :-)
I have an ancestor who stated she was married, but I know that she was widowed :-)
We have to look laterally, I think the saying is, and at the bigger picture :-)

Hi all, am back now, thanks again for all the information. What is Walter doing in 1911 claiming to be single? Very odd this one, have just found an old cert which says that they had a daughter in May 1905, Marie Helene, the birth is registered in Hendon and the address is given as 56 Borthwick Road, father is given as an Electrician, that fits with what you found recently Jonesey but his age seems to be out a couple of years unless of course my maths is wrong, so much for me being told he either died or was lost at sea and someone had said he was a Captain!! The mystery thickens. Not sure if they had any other children before Walter actually went off to be single?

Kind regards

Kathryn

Hi Maureen,

There was indeed a marriage in 1901 but the 1911 does not reveal them as a couple. The husband, Walter Edward looks as though it could be the one in the 1911 based upon the Walter with a father Robert in the 1891 census. The name and birth location ties in even if the birth year and marital status does not.

No sign of the wife though in 1911 census, 1901~1911 death records or 1902~1911 marriage index. Have tried to find her just using her forename, birth year and birthplace but no joy.