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could you please clarify

you said in your opening post Laura and Lydia had a joint wedding and Laura said Lydia was her cousin
Did you actually mean Walter or was Lydia a cousin too?

Sorry,I had to turn the computer off for a while. We kept getting power hits here.

It might be interesting to get the birth cert for Stephen Henry Curl(e),as he seems to be Amy Poll/Curle/Morgan's son. I'd love to see the father's name to determine just how Amy got to be a Curle. (or thinks she did!).

Tough one,Mary!!

Maureen
(who also feels quite dizzy!)

Whew! they ALL moved to West ham & lived in Wightman St. Laura's grandson can shed no light on her background either. Mary

This looks like Phillip who was visiting Stephen and Mary.
Interesting as he has also moved to W Ham

1881 census - household transcription
Person: CURLE, Philip H
Address: 15, King St, West Ham
CURLE, Philip H Head Married M 27 1854 Gen Lab
Kings Lynn
Norfolk
M CURLE, Louisa Wife Married F 28 1853 Gen Shopkeeper
Bromley
Middlesex
M CURLE, Louisa Daughter Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Canning Town
Essex
CURLE, Alice Grace Daughter Single F 1 1880
Canning Town
Essex


but do not ask mewho he relates too.

I feel quite dizzy.

one more for the pot

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Laura Mary G Boughton Name: Laura Mary G Boughton
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Thetford
County: Norfolk, Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 391 (click to see others on page)

1871 census - household transcription
Person: POLL, Mary
Address: Chapel Yard, Pentney
POLL, Stephen Head M 75 1796 Norfolk
POLL, Mary Wife F 71 1800 Norfolk
CURLE, Philp Visitor M 17 1854 Norfolk

1861 census - household transcription
Person: POLL, Mary
Address: Swan River Rest, Dales Green, Pentney
POLL, Stephen Head M 63 1798 Agricultural Labourer
Rubery Norfolk
POLL, Mary Wife F 58 1803
Gressingham Norfolk
POLL, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 11 1850
Norfolk Gayton Union

There is a Laura Georgina ELMER b 1867 to William 44 & Jane 29 1871 census Norfolk with 1881 census Laura 14 and Amy 1.Was she illegit & adopted?

1871 England Census
about Mary Poll Name: Mary Poll
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Stephen Poll
Gender: Female
Where born: Beatley, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Pentney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration district: Gayton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Poll 75
Mary Poll 71
Philp Curle 17

It gets worse,I think.

Would this be Elizabeth in 1851??
Name: Elizabeth Poll
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Pentney, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Pentney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Pole 54
Mary Poll 49
William Poll 25
James Poll 9
Elizabeth Poll 4
Eliza Poll 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1828; Folio: 327; Page: 24

Or am I getting lost??

Maureen

Hard to untangle-I suspected Laura was not her name or that she was illegitimate

even more tangled Choccy and Maureen

igi has name as curls


Isaac Crafer Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Curls Family
Marriage: 28 APR 1864 , Norfolk, England

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
Curle Amy Kings Lynn 4b 977
Morgan John Kings Lynn 4b 977

1861 Ancestry
Name: Elizabeth Morgan
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Morgan
Mother's name: Amy Morgan
Gender: Female
Where born: Pentney, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Kings Lynn St Margaret
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
John Morgan 48
Amy Morgan 38
Elizabeth Morgan 15
Philip Morgan 8
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1257; Folio: 10; Page: 14;

Maureen

not sure if it's relevant, but can't find a birth of Laura Georgina Curle in Kings Lynn between 1861 and 1871, but found this -


Births Dec 1866 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RUMBLELOW Laura G C King's L. 4b 329


could it be her ?

ooh a tangled web

1851 census - household transcription
Person: CRAFER, Isaac
Address: Rail Station, West Bilney
SMITH, Robert Head Married M 26 1825 Ag Lab
West Bilney Norfolk
SMITH, Lydia Wife Married F 25 1826
West Bilney Norfolk
CRAFER, Isaac Son M 7 1844 Scholar
West Bilney Norfolk
SMITH, Dennis Son M 2 1849
West Bilney Norfolk
SMITH, Alfred Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1851
West Bilney
Norfolk
CRAFER, Lydia Mother In Law Widow F 56 1795 Pauper Ag Lab Wife
Foulden Norfolk

interesting

1861 census - household transcription
Person: CURL, Elisa
Address: Rooters Hall, Moore Lane, Cranworth
CRAFER, Charles Head Married M 43 1818 Farmer Of 330 Acres Employing 11men 3 Boys 3 Women
Preston
Norfolk
CRAFER, Ann Wife Married F 37 1824
Preston
Norfolk
CRAFER, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar At Home
Cranworth
Norfolk
CRAFER, Charles Son M 5 1856 Scholar At Home
Cranworth
Norfolk
CRAFER, Annie Charlotte Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar At Home
Cranworth
Norfolk
CRAFER, William ... Son M 1 1860
Cranworth
Norfolk
STEVENS, Louisa Visitor Unmarried F 21 1840 Fundholder
Watton
Norfolk
SMITH, Mary Anne Servant Unmarried F 18 1843 Dairymaid
East Rudham
Norfolk
CURL, Elisa Servant Unmarried F 16 1845 Housemaid
Swanton Morley
Norfolk

1871 census - household transcription
Person: CRAYFER, Elizabeth
Address: Beale's Cottages, West Ham
CRAYFER, Isaac Head M 27 1844 Norfolk
CRAYFER, Elizabeth Wife F 24 1847 Norfolk
CRAYFER, Walter W Son M 4 1867 Norfolk

A tree on Ancestry says that Walter Crafer's mother was Elizabeth Morgan. Probably came from this census:
1881 census
2 Wightman St., West Ham, Essex
Isaac Crafer, head, 37, general labourer, born Norfolk, West Bilney
Eliz'th, wife, 34, born Norfolk, Pentery
Walter W., son, 14, errand boy, born "
Sarah E., dau, 8, born Essex, Canning Town
Lydia M., dau, 5, born "
Isaac J., son, 11 months, born "
Amy Morgan, wife's mother, widow, 58, born Norfolk, West Bilney
Mary Poll, wife's grandmother, widow, 82, born Norfolk, Beatley

Yes I have the marriage cert. They were both under age.