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yes i saw it now but i didn't see this happen on page 2 so i deleted the link but kept a copy just incase, sorry for not understand in first place x

Nooooooo Michelle nooooooooo!!!! LOL

See what happens when you post something that is too long? I can't read your post now. :-((

Mary

In case we need it again :-))

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/recordcopying/estimateitems.aspx?requestthis=BT+372%2F82%2F13&CATID=-

3278205&CATLN=7&Itemref=&ItemScope=&linkback=http%3A%2%2Fww
w.nationalarchives.gov.uk%2Fcatalogue%2FDisplayCatalogueDetails.as

p%3FCATID%3D3278205%26CATLN%3D7%26FullDetails%3DTrue

i deleted the link but kept a copy just incase we need it, i do same on page 3 now x

just phone aunt marion no answer i will try her again soon it's not like her to be out on a sunday this time of the day so i wonder where shes gone, she told me around 2 yrs ago when i was questioning her about her fathers side of the family and i am sure she said she was around 7 yrs old her father took her to london to meet her grandfather, she remember s this so well cos her grandfather gave her some money and when they were coming home she remembers Joe taking it off her and never giving it back to her so this is why i remember her telling me this cos it was quite a shocker my grandad joe behaving like this. so i say between 7 and 9 yrs the most when she met him

Rings!! LOL

Thanks for the giggle Maureen, you can always rely on Ancestry for a laugh! ;-)))

Mary

Just to let you know exactly what Ancestry did with the transcription in 1901:
1901 Ancestry
Name: Violet Rings
Age in 1901: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Coe Rings
Mother's name: Sarah Rings
Gender: Female
Where born: S Sea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Llangafelach
ED, institution, or vessel: 23

Household schedule number: 110
Household Members:
Name Age
William Coe Rings 31
Sarah Rings 31
Willie Rings 10
Matthew Rings 9
Violet Rings 1
Sarah Hare 72
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5073; Folio: 91; Page: 19.

Sigh.

Maureen

COCKINGS, William Head Married M 42 1869 Copper Smelter Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Sarah Wife Married
21 years F 42 1869 Household Duty Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, William Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Fitter Copper Works Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Mathew David Son M 18 1893 Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Violet Daughter F 11 1900 School Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Charlie Son M 2 1909 Swansea VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32740 Reference:
RG14PN32740 RG78PN1869 RD594 SD2 ED3 SN259

fantastic records you given me here and what a massive family i think violet would of had many more children if she did not die so young, i going to phone my aunt marion now to ask about her fathers father and see if she can remember the name violet aswell xx

Michelle

What year - roughly - would your aunty Marion have met him in London?

Mary

Michelle

On your post on page 2 - the one with the www, addy for TNA records. If you click on edit on that post, you will be able to put spaces at various intervals in that addy which will break it down and stop it going off the page (or making the page so wide that you have to scroll side to side to read all the posts on that page).

If you do that and anyone wanting to copy and paste that addy will know to delete the spaces in their browser bar, so it's not a problem. :-))

Mary

EDIT: NO, don't delete the addy.......we might need it again! LOL

Just asked my mother about great grand father marriages and she said she hasn't a clue cos she never knew him she never met him only her older sister marion went to london to meet him once x

Sorry mary i still do not know which post to delete to break down, sometimes i think i was dropped on my head when i was born for not understand whats right infront of my eyes xx if you show me what to delete i will happily delete it xx

Not finding any Violet Cockings in 1901 census and this is the only one I can find in 1911:

COCKINGS, William Head Married M 42 1869 Copper Smelter Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Sarah Wife Married
21 years F 42 1869 Household Duty Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, William Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Fitter Copper Works Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Mathew David Son M 18 1893 Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Violet Daughter F 11 1900 School Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Swansea VIEW
COCKINGS, Charlie Son M 2 1909 Swansea VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32740 Reference:
RG14PN32740 RG78PN1869 RD594 SD2 ED3 SN259

Registration District:
Swansea Sub District:
Llangafelach Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Swansea

Address:
28 Vivian St Hafod County:
Glamorganshire


Mary

Edit: Found same family in 1901 using FMP - Lord knows what Ancestry have them transcribed as! ;-)

COCKINGS, William Head Married M 31 1870 Copper Smelter
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Sarah Wife Married F 31 1870
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Willie Son Single M 10 1891
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Matthew Son Single M 9 1892
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
COCKINGS, Violet Daughter Single F 1 1900
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
HARE, Sarah Mother Widow F 72 1829
S Sea
Glamorganshire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
5073 Folio:
91 Page:
19

Registration District:
Swansea Sub District:
Llangafelach Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Swansea Municipal Borough:
Address:
28, Vivian Street, Swansea County:
Glamorganshire

yes i will phone my mother now and ask her, yes most likely he would of remarried if his first wife died and i am positive my great grandfather was from London because my aunty marion said when was a young girl she went on the train to London to meet him only once and i am sure peckham rings a bell maybe he was orig from this area my great grandfather.

Yes it's so strange you cannot find death for Vera since you were able to find all the other records i wonder why x

Hi Mary,

No it's definately not just you!
Unfortunately i have to go out in a while but will get back to the thread as soon as possible and hopefully I might have a bit more info!
i have definately downloaded records the same day that i found them so I think if you get an estimate that means you can't download them instantly.

Cathy

Michelle

If you click on Edit on that particular post, your original message will come up on the next screen where you can edit it.........but I wouldn't worry too much now as we're on to the next page of this thread now. ;-))

Mary

Mary

EDIT: Michelle - would you edit your post with the TNA site addy on as it's causing the posts to go off the page and making it hard to read? - don't delete the addy, just break it down into several parts and then the posts will be easy to read. Thanks :-)))))

Welcome back mary i was cooking dinner to now all this has happened i told the kids to dish up themselves i am not moving from this chair haha, i am not sure what u mean ? how do i break it down several parts pls and i will happily do this i just don't understand what you mean please x

Michelle

Can you ask your mum if she ever remembers the names Lydia or Mary being mentioned?

There are a couple of marriages for Josiah John after 1921 and I'm wondering if your great grandfather (assuming we're on the right track here lol) re-married.

Strangely, I can't find a death or marriage for Vera W John. :-((

Mary

Right I have sent a message but I have no idea when or even if I will get a reply Michelle. It's so frustrating isn't it?

Hi Cathy and Michelle

Sorry, I had to disappear and do some lunch.

I'm afraid I am of no use to you re. searching TNA.......I've never been
able to find a thing on there!! I thought it was just me, so I feel a bit
better now ;-)))

Mary

EDIT: Michelle - would you edit your post with the TNA site addy on as it's causing the posts to go off the page and making it hard to read? - don't delete the addy, just break it down into several parts and then the posts will be easy to read. Thanks :-)))))

thanks Cath i am ever so grateful xx

Michelle I am going to try to contact someone on GR who was a great help to me when I was trying to get records from the TNA in the hope that he might be able to help us. Will get back as soon as possible with news!

cathy