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Henry FOUNTAIN NEWMAN born c.1883 Bedfordshire

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 22:41

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BURNHAM, John
Address: St Giles, Eaton Bray
BURNHAM, John Head Married M 53 1838 Agricultural Labourer
Ivinghoe
Buckinghamshire
BURNHAM, Ann Wife Married F 38 1853 Straw Plaiter
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
BURNHAM, Walter Son Single M 27 1864 Ag Labourer
Ivinghoe
Buckinghamshire
BURNHAM, Lydia Daughter Single F 18 1873 Straw Plaiter
Ivinghoe
Buckinghamshire
BURNHAM, Florrie Daughter Single F 11 1880 Straw Plaiter
Ivinghoe
Buckinghamshire
BURNHAM, Ernest Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
BURNHAM, John Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
BURNHAM, Lily Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
BURNHAM, Ruth Daughter F 1 1890
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 22:33

compare

1881 - could this be a connection?

John BURNHAM Head M Male 43 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr
Ann BURNHAM Wife M Female 27 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Straw Plaiter
Hannah DYER Boarder U Female 19 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Straw Plaiter
Walter BURNHAM Son U Male 17 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr
Joseph BURNHAM Son Male 13 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr
Lydia BURNHAM Daur Female 9 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England Scholar
Roda FOUNTAIN Step Daur Female 9 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Scholar
Ethred BURNHAM Son Male 6 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England Scholar
Henry FOUNTAIN Step Son Male 6 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Scholar
Flora BURNHAM Daur Female 1 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England
Rosa DYER Niece Female 2 m Eaton Bray, Bedford, England

BERMHAM/BURNHAM????

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 22:30

1901 census - household transcription
Person: FOUNTAIN, Emma
Address: 18, Weymouth Street, Hemel Hempstead
FOUNTAIN, Emma Head Married F 27 1874
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
FOUNTAIN, Ethel Daughter Single F 9 1892
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
FOUNTAIN, Henry Son Single M 2 1899
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
FOUNTAIN, Eva Daughter Single F 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Hemel Hempstead
Hertfordshire
BERMHAM, Ernest Brother-In-Law Single M 20 1881 Labourer In Paper Mill
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
BERMHAM, Jack Brother-In-Law Single M 17 1884 Labourer In Paper Mill
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 22:28

Following Emma Cripps


1881 census - household transcription
Person: CRIPPS, Emma
Address: Union Workhouse, Leighton Buzzard
CRIPPS, Fanny Pauper Single F 35 1846 Straw Plaiter
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
CRIPPS, Alice Pauper Single F 10 1871 Attendant At School
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
CRIPPS, Emma Pauper Single F 8 1873 Attendant At School
Eaton Bray


1891 census - household transcription
Person: CRIPPS, Emma
Address: Chapel Yard, Eaton Bray
COLMAN, James T Head Married M 22 1869 General Labourer
Luton
Bedfordshire
COLMAN, Annie E Wife Married F 23 1868
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
COLMAN, Clara E Daughter F 0 (8M) 1891
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire
CRIPPS, Emma Sister In Law F 18 1873 Straw Plaiter
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 22:09

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
CRIPPS Emma Leighton B. 3b 791
FOUNTAIN Henry Leighton B. 3b 791
Gadsden Thomas Leighton B. 3b 791
Rollings Ann Leighton Buzzard 3b 791


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 20:40

This Newman family were in Eaton Bray.

1901 census - household transcription
Person: NEWMAN, Charles
Address: Prospect Cottages, Summerleys, Eaton Bray
NEWMAN, Charles Head Married M 31 1870 Bread Baker
Eddlesborough
Buckinghamshire VIEW
NEWMAN, Sabina Wife Married F 35 1866
Eddlesborough
Buckinghamshire VIEW
NEWMAN, Constance Daughter M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Eddlesborough
Buckinghamshire VIEW
NEWMAN, Ann Mother Widow F 64 1837
Eddlesborough
Buckinghamshire VIEW
IMPEY, Frederick Boarder Single M 16 1885 Journeyman Baker
Eddlesborough
Buckinghamshire

PaddingtonRob

PaddingtonRob Report 28 Sep 2010 17:04

Thanks again.
All hopefully all will become clearer when I receive the marriage certificate. Fingers crossed.

I saw tht lodger reference, and could be possible, but need to get the birth date sorted once and for all.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 16:48

1891 England Census
about Henry Fountain Name: Henry Fountain
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Caton; Bray, Bedfordshire, England

John Edmunds 47
Ellen Edmunds 28
John Edmunds 4
Annie E Edmunds 2
William Edmunds 1
William Houris 17
Henry Fountain 17
Henry Pakes 6
Edward Luck 17
Eli Horn


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 16:47

Sorry i deleted an aberration

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Sep 2010 16:27

Hannah Dyer from 1881 census:-

1871
Name: Hannah Dyer
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Dyer
Mother's Name: Sarah Dyer
Gender: Female
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eaton Bray
Town: Eaton Bray
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dyer 40 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire (Day Lab.)
Sarah Dyer 39 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire (Plaiter)
Betsy Dyer 15
Sarah Dyer 12
Hannah Dyer 10
George Dyer 6
Arthur Dyer 4


and 1861 shows Ann:-
Name: David Dyer
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Dyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Eaton Bray
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dyer 29
Sarah Dyer 29
Ann Dyer 8
Elizabeth Dyer 5
Sarah Dyer 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Sep 2010 16:13

This would be Ann Dyer (Fountain)'s first marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
DYER Ann Leighton B. 3b 831
FOUNTAIN Frederic Leighton B. 3b 831
Janes Nathaniel Leighton Buzzard 3b 831
Sternham Ann Sharratt Leighton Buzzard 3b 831

The district Leighton Buzzard spans the boundaries of the counties of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire

1871
Name: Ann Fountain
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Frederick Fountain
Gender: Female
Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Eaton Bray
Town: Eaton Bray
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Fountain 21 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire
Ann Fountain 19

Deaths Sep 1875 (>99%) ??
FOUNTAIN Frederick 31 Leighton B. 3b 257

PaddingtonRob

PaddingtonRob Report 28 Sep 2010 15:44

Hi again lady K.
I have checked in BMD sections andd have confirmed marriage of NEWMAN Henry Fountain to FAWDRY Winifred Ellen.
Registered in Southam (Warwickshire). Jul-Sept 1907, Vol 6d, Page 1457.

So it refers to the 'Fountain' part as a second name, but as you have seen on the 1911 Census, and also on my mother's birth and marriage certificates, she and her parents are referred to as 'Fountain Newman'.

The mystery deepens. However i have ordered the certificate and this may provide some answers.

re. Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
Newman Winifred Maria Southwark 1d 50a . That is my Aunt and once again everything refers to Fountain Newman

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 15:11

There is a public tree on Ancestry with Henry son of Ann and Frederick and is recorded as marrying Emma Cripps.


1874
13 NovBirth
Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England, United Kingdom 3 source citations Hide source citations 1881 England Census 1891 England Census England & Wales, Birth Index: 1837-1983 1881

Age: 7 Residence
Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England 1 source citation Hide source citations 1881 England Census 1891

Age: 17 Residence
Kempston, Bedfordshire, England 1 source citation Hide source citations 1891 England Census 1892
4 JulAge: 17 Marriage to Emma Cripps
Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 14:58

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
Newman Winifred Maria Southwark 1d 50a

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 14:50

Strange as ALL members are recorded with the middle name Fountain

1911
NEWMAN, Henry Fountain Head Married M 28 1883 Stationery Dealer Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW
NEWMAN, Winifred Ellen Fountain Wife Married F 24 1887 Witney Oxfordshire VIEW
NEWMAN, Winifred Maria Fountain Daughter F 2 1909 Camberwell London VIEW
NEWMAN, Nellie Eileen Fountain Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 14:41

I was wondering why Henry Fountain Newman in your original post became Henry Fountain.
when searching FMP I just used the search criteria Henry and Eaton Bray.
ther was no Henry of the earlier birthdate nor was their Henry Newman.
I think you will need the marriage cert before you go any furthur.

PaddingtonRob

PaddingtonRob Report 28 Sep 2010 14:05

Thanks Lady K

Some interesting things there.

As you can see the ages are so often wrong on censuses.

On the 1891 one, Richard, the head of the family is listed as 40. However on the 1881 one he is listed as only 8 years younger.

suppose Harry b1881, could well be the Henry i am looking for still unsure here the Newman part came in. As you say will have to investigate further. ttermpting now to locate the date and place of henry Fountain Newman and Winifred fawdry's wedding. Possibly in Witney, Oxon.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 13:36

1881 census - household transcription
Person: FOUNTAIN, Eliza
Address: High Street, Eaton-Bray
FOUNTAIN, Richard Head Married M 32 1849 Publican & Ag Lab (Out Of Employ)
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife Married F 24 1857 Straw Plaiter
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Frank Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Kate Daughter Single F 2 1879
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Infant Son Single M 0 1881
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 13:26

Several possibilities here.
The 2 censuses show Richard and Eliza as parents rather than Ann but birthdate is nearer. I think you need a little more investigation here.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Sep 2010 13:15

1891 census - household transcription
Person: FOUNTAIN, Harry
Address: Gammons Lane, Eaton Bray
FOUNTAIN, Richard Head Married M 40 1851 Agricultral Labourer
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife Married F 34 1857 Straw Plaiter
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Frank Son M 15 1876 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Harry Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Lucy F Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Amos Son M 2 1889
Eaton Bray
Bedfordshire