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**Ann**

**Ann** Report 5 Aug 2010 20:45

Hello Sheena,

Found these today listed on Griffiths Valuation rolls for Cork, maybe worth looking into as potential birth parishes for Mary??

You can got to ............ www.askaboutireland.ie/griffithsvaluation


Occupier Surname Occupier Forename County Parish Details Original Page Map Views
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK ISLAND
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK CLONFERT
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK KILBRIN
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK KILBRIN
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK DROMTARRIFF (PART OF)
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK GLANWORTH
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK HOLY TRINITY
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK HOLY TRINITY
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK HOLY TRINITY
FITZPATRICK DENIS CORK HOLY TRINITY



1848/1864


Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 21:22

googling irish forums ahhhhh

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 20:45

gettin there a bit now all starting to fit you all are so clever thanks

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 20:39

I just spotted that jan and was about to post...........a DENNIS! to boot as well.

Sheena..........Cork Genforum looks a good one to try.

Annx

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Aug 2010 20:37

1861
Name: Mary Isaac
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England



Household Members:
Name Age
John Isaac 28
Mary Isaac 29
Michael Isaac 5
Mary Isaac 3
Isaac Isaac 7

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Aug 2010 20:34

1871?
Name: Mary Isaacs
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Cork, Ireland
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western


Household Members:
Name Age
John Isaacs 38
Mary Isaacs 40
Michael Isaacs 16
Mary A Isaacs 13
Isaac Isaacs 11
Dennis Isaacs 9
John Isaacs 7
Elizabeth Isaacs 5
Timothy Isaacs 3
George Isaacs 1

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 20:19

Hi Sheena,

Its just a matter of googling, maybe one that specialises in Cork records, most Original RC record books are kept in their churches copies I think are at Dublin on microfilm. If you knew the church where she was baptised that would be a bonus.........I only had occasion once to deal with RC records and I rang the church and they rang me back with the baptisms of 13 children! Will have a look for you regarding forums.

Did it actually say on the 1861 census that she was from Cork?

Annx

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 20:07

only after her marriage 1861 any futher help much app ann
where would i find an irish genealogy forum??

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 20:03

Sheena,

With the info you have you should find an Irish genealogy forum where people specialise in Irish records, I am sure someone will be able to help you further.

Do you have her on any census?

Annx

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 19:58

guess my tree will have to end there have not got a clue about irish records

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 19:50

thank you ann followin the thread now that its been said yes it does look like it

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 19:48

Sheena,

Had a couple of e-mails back and defo Dennis is looking good at the moment just waiting one more from someone else that offered.

Annx

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Aug 2010 19:43

do you have census info for 1861?

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 19:06

only know its mary fitzpatrick born in cork

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 18:46

Sheena,

You have to be very lucky to find what you are looking for on the IGI relating to Irish records, they are not abundant on there! They really are the worst to trace especially if you only have the County she was born in......if you have the vilage/town it does make it easier. However having said that if his name is Dennis that is in your favour...........as opossed to Patrick William John or James Fitzpatrick.

Ann

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 18:37

guess that rules the igi baptism for mary out

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 18:35

yes please i thought percival when i enlarged it

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 4 Aug 2010 16:24

Hi Sheena,

Got your mail and straightaway I thought it was DENNIS! Would you like me to put it out for someone else to have a go on a new thread?

Annx

Sheena

Sheena Report 4 Aug 2010 16:03

thanks maddie very interesting

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Aug 2010 10:23

Hi Sheena
St Marys Moorfiled appears to be right as Eldon Street is neary by

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