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Just logged on to see developments, well done everyone! I thought "our Mary" may be "Hilda"...........I suppose if she was of an age as to know her own name when she was taken in by the other family, you would not change it would you.

Jim will be doing cartwheels tonight!

Annx

It's definately been very interesting thread, hopefully the birth cert for Hilda Park will show the correct birth date? until then it is all speculation.

I'm not sure that we would find a family connection to the Pegg, Banks or Noble family..... just a gut feeling, and as for the remarriage of Mary Jane Park/Craggs........ I haven't found a death for William Park, however he may not have survived WW1 and this maybe the reason that the daughter Hilda was given up for "adoption"? again all speculation



Dee x

I think that Mary Jane Craggs who married William Park may have remarried;

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Bertram Eltringham
Name: Bertram Eltringham
Spouse Surname: Park
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1926
Registration district: Gateshead
Registration county (inferred): Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1517
Find Spouse: Mary J Park





and possible children for this marriage;
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
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Eltringham Bertram Craggs Gateshead 10a 1585

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Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
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Eltringham Henry Craggs Gateshead 10a 1580

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Births Mar 1931 (>99%)
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Eltringham Robert Craggs Gateshead 10a 1499



Dee x

Here, here Christine! Amazing stuff

A free search on the 1911 shows this couple married in 1906



HOUSEHOLD PARK WILLIAM M 1885 26 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD PARK MARY JANE F 1887 24 Gateshead Durham

And a son?

HOUSEHOLD PARK THOMAS M 1907 4 Gateshead Durham


Dee x

This maybe the marriage of the parents for the Park/Craggs children


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>Craggs Mary Jane Gateshead 10a 1174
NEWCOMBE John William Gateshead 10a 1174
>>>>>>Park William Gateshead 10a 1174
Smith Amelia Gateshead 10a 1174


Dee x

So Looking at the births the one that Seaham Lass found which Janey confirmed for Hilda Parks mother Craggs registered September 1914 is looking more likely now.


Dee x

here's John Peggs WW1 record, it confirms jane Isabella Noble as his wife and more importantly it states a daughter; Hilda PARK born GATESHEAD 25.07.1914;


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about John Pegg
Name: John Pegg
Residence: 127 Vine Street Gateshead
Document Year: 1920
Regimental Number: 1023
Regiment Name: DLI
Number of Images: 25




They married on 01.07.1907 and the witnesses were Muriel Dawn and J J Anderson.


Dee x

Wow! This thread has developed apace! Worth me typing my little fingers to the bone then, heh Janey??? :))


Hope it all works out well Jim. Cx

Dee, you've confused the * out of me.

I assumed you were talking about a Mary Noble who was a sister of Jane Noble.

But this person (note how I eliminate the bumph!)

Births Dec 1887
NOBLE Mary Isabella Gateshead 10a 851

isn't in Isabella's household pre-1911. We don't know she's Jane's sister -- ? A relation maybe, yes.

Well actually, pretty likely *not* Jane's sister -- since they both had middle name Isabella! But quite possibly related.


Edit -- aha, 'twasn't I who was confused then. ;)
I'm dead beat too, even thugh it's only 8 pm here. It's the heat. If it isn't the heat, it's the humidity.

These are all people worth taking looks at, I think.

Oh Janey........ i stand corrected Hun, told you it was too late for me, I need some shut eye!!!

Night night.


Dee x

Jane Isabella parents
Elizabeth Noble & Alexander Banks

John Pegg

Henry Pegg and Mary Eliza Elliot

looking for connection to surname PARK

Bed Jim! Us genealogists never sleep!

Nite nite

Annx

Now hold on, Dee (and can't I persuade you to delete all the useless bumph from those census records??)

Mary Pegg was John Pegg's sister -- not his wife's sister. ;)

Both are candidates -- Mary Pegg and Mary Noble.

Possible marriage for the sister mary;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Mack James Noble Gateshead 10a 1696
Noble Mary I Mack Gateshead 10a 1696



I have to finish now.... getting too late for me, will pop back in the morning.


Dee x

Interesting.

Births Sep 1914
Noble Hilda (mother Noble) Newcastle T. 10b 109

Possibly quite interesting?

Marys birth??

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
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NOBLE Mary Isabella Gateshead 10a 851



Maybe her in 1901??

1901 England Census
about Mary Isa Banks
Name: Mary Isa Banks
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Stella, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stella
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Stella
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Winlaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Banks 79
Isabella Banks 79
Mary Isa Banks 13


Dee x

Janey & Ann, thanks for the info, it's just great, I never thought that when I posted my Thread that I would have had so much help from you all including Victoria. That is an interesting thought Janey about sister Mary Pegg, It just might have been Mary Pegg was her mother and not Mary Park was her name??.

Many thanks again off to bed now but I will be back tomorrow night

Jim.

Well done Dee!

The Noble Banks marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>BANKS Alexander Gateshead 10a 1189
Moody Dorathy Gateshead 10a 1189
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Noble Elizabeth Gateshead 10a 1189
WATSON John Willis Gateshead 10a 1189



Janey I don't want to blow your theory out of the water but Mary may have been born a Noble???



Dee x