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Ok so this was sister Annie to get date and place of birth.

BROWN, Annie Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Bildeston
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Hi JaneyCanuck
Thanks your your help in my search for Vincent Brown
he wasnt a farmer the family were farm workers. It looks as it
may come expensivefor this search, Thanks again
Eve

I'll just butt in here to say, in case no one has:

Records for Canadian provinces are not available for most of the 1900s. We have privacy legislation that protects the personal info of living (or presumed living) people.

No births access for 100 years -- so there is no way of searching for any children he had.

No marriage access for 75 years in Ontario -- Ancestry has them transcribed to 1926.

No deaths for 65 years - Ancestry has them transcribed to 1934.

All unless you are proved immediately family or the death of the person is proved.

I don't have paid access at ancestry.ca now, and I imagine somebody with worldwide access has looked, but this is the marriages database:

http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=7921

Nothing there looks promising, I'm afraid.


The Canadian Legion's Last Post deaths database goes back only to 1987:

http://www.legionmagazine.com/en/lastpost/

It is possible, though, that if he was an active Legion member, his local branch would have some record of him. The problem would be knowing where that was. There's no guarantee he returned to Milton after the war. However, if he was an actual farmer (and not farm worker), he may have done.

It is also possible to order his complete WWI military records, for photocopying charges of so-much per page. I would have to look up the details of how to do that, if you're interested. It tends to come to around $30-$40 from what I've heard (halve that for pounds).

Hi LadyKia
Thanks for replying so soon, I dont have any more info; but will you still keep looking for me? Do you have records for 1930s in for Ontario? Please can you keep in touch if you find any more information,its strange as he disappeared
thanks again

Eve

Eve

You can look at his enlistment papers here

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc001/266612a.gif&id_nbr=70437

As Ginny has already pointed out, his next of kin on the papers is Mrs Annie Black, 56 Rosebury Gardens, Harringay, London.

Annie is his next of kin, it does not say that he LIVED with Annie. Vincent's address on the papers is in Ontario.

If your mother had an inheritance from Vincent's estate it would appear that he never married or certainly it is unlikely that he had children. It doesn't look like he returned to England but remained in either Canada or the USA. It may be that there is no heirs or descendants of Vincent left in Canada or USA for you to find.

Hi LadyKira
All I know of Vincent Brown is he went to Canada 1912, with his older brother Albert Brown, Albert came back to Glemsford Suffolk in 1914. Vincent stayed and enlisted in the Canadian Army,reg no 311755,I had info; from Dee that he stayed with his sister Mrs Annie Black, at Milton, West, Ontario. this is on the Canada soldiers of war, 1914--1918 war,this record shows his correct birth place as Glemsford ,Suffolk,march 1895. Also a border crossing to the USA from Canada 1895--1956 arrival port Island pond, Vermont USA, so I dont know of a return, only of a failed siteing in the states, Ialways thought he retuRed to Canada, as my mother had an inheritance in the mid 1970 and that is allEVE
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Can I suggest you put together as much info as you can about his life in Canada.
Dates
Addresses etc
Relations
Etc
Using that we might be able to get further clues by looking at original documents. I have worldwide Ancestry even if I am still learning how to use it.
Also paste the info you had about his sister and where it came from.

Hi Ginny
Thanks for your support, it is very important personally
to find out about my family, sorry for any stress Ihave given
I have not been using a computer for long and I know it shows. Thanks again, will you keep searching.

Eve

Eve

It's OK if you dont have the answer to the many questions you are being asked but we need you to answer them even if the answer is I dont know

This way you will keep your thread going and the more people that see the thread the more heads we have working for you

As LK has said, these things take time and suddenly just click into place. It may be that the info we need isnt online yet but that doesnt mean it wont be in the future

It took me about 12 months to find my family in the US and now I am in regular contact with my cousins!


x

What do you mean it isn't going far?

You know more today than you did last week.

Yhis is something that may take years to get fll information but as more records are put on line you will eventually find answers.

You have been asked various questions to help us identify your person but we are dealing with common surnames.
Like
Where does it say he stayed with his sister Annie Black? I havent found anything to suggest this?

The first mention of Annie Black was when I found the WW1 record for you and it gives her address as London

Do you have some other 'solid' sources of information please?

You will need to compare addresses names etc from every piece of documentation you find.

We enjoy a challenge but by its nature research takes time.

Hi GINNY
I can see this is not going very far, Idont have any more info to tell you, thanks to all
Eve

Rootgatherer

I'm still looking but Eve dosent seem to want to answer any questions ;)

Eve we need to ask you questions and sometimes have to go all 'about the houses' before we can come up with something solid

If you don't answer, we can't help you

Right I have found a marriage for an 'Annie Brown', but at the moment Eve, it's only speculation that it's her


Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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BLACK John Cockermouth 10b 809
BROWN Annie Cockermouth 10b 809

If this is her then we need to find her in 1901, maybe under the name Brown but she could have been married before

We are all trying to help you Eve but I'm gonna call it a day if you dont help us

Oh, Eve I can't believe that you have deleted the other thread with all those census records on it and now LadyKira has spent time looking for them!

The next thing someone will be posting the details again about the WRONG Vincent Brown who is the same age and went to Canada and also enlisted there!

So, for the benefit of the helpers who did not see the other thread.

Eve's Vincent is NOT Vincent James Brown, the Yorkshire man who married Myrtle!!


Ginny, that was good of you to re-post the details from his enlistment papers and that 1901 census. Thank you so much for the time and effort you have put into this.

Eve

Where does it say he stayed with his sister Annie Black? I havent found anything to suggest this?

The first mention of Annie Black was when I found the WW1 record for you and it gives her address as London

Do you have some other 'solid' sources of information please?

x

LadyKira
This is the Vincent Brown 1895 who went to Canada 1912
stayed and joined the Canadian Army reg no;311755,
he stayed with his sister Annie Black, can you search for
a marriage or children. Thanks
EVE

possible marriage

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Brown Abraham Cosford 4a 677
Taylor Elizabeth Cosford 4a 677

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abraham
Address: Hunts Hill, Glemsford
BROWN, David Head Married M 38 1823 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
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BROWN, Sharlet Wife Married F 37 1824 Silk Weaver
...
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BROWN, Charles Son M 15 1846 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
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BROWN, David Son M 13 1848 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
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BROWN, Abraham Son M 11 1850 Hair Server
Glemsford
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BROWN, Hannah Daughter F 11 1850 Hair Server
Glemsford
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BROWN, William Son M 8 1853
Glemsford
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BROWN, Agnes Son M 7 1854
Glemsford
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BROWN, George Son M 3 1858
Glemsford
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BROWN, Mary Ann Daughter F 2 1859
Glemsford
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BROWN, Theode Daughter F 0 (7W) 1861
Glemsford
Suffolk

1881 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abraham
Address: Tye Green, Glemsford
BROWN, Abraham Head Married M 31 1850 Mat Maker
Glemsford
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BROWN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1853
London, London
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BROWN, Julia Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Kate Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Annie Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Willie Son Single M 4 1877
Bildeston
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BROWN, Ernest Son Single M 3 1878
Bildeston
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BROWN, Lily Daughter Single F 0 1881
Glemsford
Suffolk

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Abram
Address: Egremont Street, Glemsford
BROWN, Abram Head Married M 42 1849 Silk Weaver
Glemsford
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BROWN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1852
Bildeston
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BROWN, Willie Son M 14 1877 Errand Boy
Bildeston
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BROWN, Ernest Son M 12 1879 Errand Boy
Glemsford
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BROWN, George Son M 4 1887
Glemsford
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BROWN, Albert Son M 2 1889
Glemsford
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BROWN, Annie Daughter F 16 1875 Domestic Servant
Bildeston
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Lily Daughter F 10 1881
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Flora Daughter F 8 1883
Glemsford
Suffolk VIEW
BROWN, Ethel Daughter F 6 1885
Glemsford
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BROWN, Bessie Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891
Glemsford
Suffolk

1901 England Census
about Vincent Brown
Name: Vincent Brown
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Abram
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Glemsford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Glemsford
Ecclesiastical parish: Glemsford
Town: Glemsford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sudbury
Sub-registration district: Hartest
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Abram Brown 50
Elizabeth Brown 48
Ernest Brown 21
Florrie Brown 18
Ethel Brown 16
George Brown 13
Albert Brown 12
Bessie Brown 10
Charlie Brown 8
Vincent Brown 6