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William Sass Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth: MAR 1824 , , Germany
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Marriages:
Spouse: Mrs. Caroline Sass Family
Marriage: 1851 , , Germany

William Adolf Sass Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: John Charles Sass Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Lily Clark Family
Marriage: 05 JUN 1911 North Kelsey, Lincoln, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Grannie

Thanks for that, I guess they could have paid anyone to bring them here in the 1850's and lived here illegally.
Strange they were on the 1861 census.

It does make me wonder why a young couple moved countries.

I guess other than finding records in Germany of Frederick Sass leaving Germany I may never know when and where they cam from nevermind why.

Thanks for all your input and help.

Janet
The strange twist was that
Even though Frederick was alive in 1871 working in Tynmouth his youngest son John was aged 5 living in a workhouse with none of his family.

I don't know what happened to Louisa and the other two children.

Fortunately young John grew up and moved to Manchester, the family are still here.

Simon,Thats where i got Frederic Sass from. Ancestry.There are other Sass but only one Frederic.He was on ticket 300.My son in laws dad was german and came over here in the 1930's and there is no record for him as well. Annie

I don't think your records are my family we have no evidence that our Sass's were from London.
They lived in Hull.

Frederick Sass had 3 children all born in England
Jane 1859
Julius 1861
John 1867

Are there no records on Ancestry showing German aliens in Britain and where they arrived in England?

1881

William H. SASSE Head M Male 29 Germany Baker
Annie SASSE Wife M Female 20 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 27 Edgar Road
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341110
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0495 / 96
Page Number 22

Anne
I am trying to find when and where they came from in Germany not where they lived in England.
The Sass you have in 1881 are different family whose descendents still live in Liverpool
The Christening record is not him he can't have been born in England.

FREDRICK DAVID SASS Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 JUL 1841 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England
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Parents:
Father: BEREND SASS Family
Mother: ELLEN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

1881

John SASS Head M Male 49 Schwerin Mecklenburg, Germany Sugar Refiner
Marie SASS Wife M Female 49 Schwerin Mecklenburg, Germany Sugar Refiner Wife
William SASS Son U Male 19 Schwerin Mecklenburg, Germany Sugar Refiners Son
Frederick SASS Son U Male 14 Lpool, Lancashire, England Sugar Refiners Son
John CORDES Boarder U Male 27 Hanover, Germany Sugar Refiner
Frederick BAHRMAN Boarder U Male 37 Hanover, Germany Sugar Refiner


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Source Information:
Dwelling 43 Hopwood St
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341862
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3600 / 40
Page Number 7

Ann of Green Gables
That is my Frederick on the 1881 living on his own in Sunderland.
His family were scattered across England.
I have never found what happened to Louisa by 1881.

Grannie
That could be him, he would have been around 21 then and Louisa a little younger.
Why move from Hamburg to England in 1850.
They ended up living in Hull which makes me think that was where they landed rather than Dover but I wouldn't rule Dover out.

There is a Frederic Sass that came over from Germany on the 21st feb 1850 and arrived at Dover. No age for him though. Annie

1881

John TAYLOR Head M Male 67 Ireland Lodging House Keeper
Elizabeth TAYLOR Wife M Female 58 Ireland
Charles TAYLOR Son U Male 22 Durham, Durham, England Tailor Journeyman
Thomas PARKIN Lodger U Male 39 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Engine Fitter Journeyman
Ralph SMITH Lodger M Male 36 Gateshead, Durham, England Glass Cutter Journeyman
Mary SMITH Lodger M Female 26 Readymoor, Durham, England
Robert WILKINSON Lodger U Male 41 Fatfield, Durham, England Butcher Out Of Employ
Ralph MARROW Lodger U Female 40 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Anchor Smiths Striker
Andrew BELL Lodger U Male 54 Newcastle, Northumberland, England General Labourer
Thomas WILSON Lodger U Male 23 Sunderland, Durham, England Baker Out Of Employ
Robert JACKSON Lodger Male 18 Sunderland, Durham, England Mariner
Joseph COLLINS Lodger U Male 40 Gateshead, Durham, England Iron Yard Labourer Manuf
William JOHNSON Lodger U Male 33 Darlington, Durham, England Blacksmith Out Of Employ
James JACKSON Lodger M Male 30 Sunderland, Durham, England Iron Yard Labourer Ship
Agnes MALONE Lodger M Female 45 Scotland Seamstress
James BURNS Lodger Male 30 Ireland Coal Miner Out Of Employ
George JOHNSON Lodger Male 17 Scotland Slater Out Of Employ
Frederick SASS Lodger M Male 49 Germany Tailor Journeyman
Michael HEALEY Lodger W Male 56 Scotland Tailor Journeyman
William WILSON Lodger M Male 27 Sheffield, York, England Iron Yard Labourer Ship
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Source Information:
Dwelling 10 Havelock Street
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5000 / 43
Page Number 80

I am hoping a very kind soul with access to records I do not have can find me any records of when and how Johann Christian Friedrich Sasse (born @1829 Hamburg, Germany) came to Britain.
I have found him on 3 census married to his wife Louisa who was also German.
1861 Living and Working in Hull
1871 Living and working as a tailor in Tynmouth
1881 Living and Working in Sunderland - Lodger 10 Havelock St

There is a very strange twist to Frederick and Louisa but I would love to know when and how they came to Britain and then find more about my German Ancestors.

Many thanks in advance to you super sleuths.