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Celia

It's very clear we cannot find her, so you go further out and see if she pops up somewhere!

It's very unlikely he'd leave anything to a relative he was no longer in constant communication with.... and this makes her more likely to be in America with him?


T x

sounds right
but why are you searching him , its mary im trying to trace

Grrr Ginny was just gonna do that!


T x

This him

Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988
about Samuel G Ross
Name: Samuel G Ross
Death Date: 5 Mar 1957
Death Location: Cook County, IL
File Number: 16365
Archive collection name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Deaths)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk

I know aht you are saying MM, but sometimes assumption has been the devil in disguise!

T x

he died in illinios county of cook
the money from him was given out in april 1958 so he could have died a year before

When/where did Samuel die in the States?
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there were 8 siblings 4 went to america
i am in contact thanks to help from someone on genes to decendants in usa
i have seen census which brings them together also i knew
some of them and from my mother

Could this be the brother; born England

. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Samuel George Ross
Name: Samuel George Ross
Birth Date: 6 May 1894
Birth Place:
Residence: Chicago, Illinois
Race: White
Roll: 30955_165943

Tracey, I think Celia knows that the brother (who made the will) is her own grandmother's brother, and Laura Mary (or vice versa) was their sister.

I assume she's checked emigration records for the brother, or maybe the will is in her possession. ??

Ok this might sound daft, but what evidence do you have to tie in the people we have found to the people in the will?

How sure are you these people are English and not American?



T x

about 1958 samuel george died
he was knowmn as george

When did the brother die in America?

Have i missed the date somewhere?


T x

Ok jumping in on this one late.

I have this for 1901.

1901 RG number: RG13 Piece: 2110 Folio: 168 Page: 4

Address: 15, College Road, Devonport County: Devonshire
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ROSS, William Head Widower M 47 1854 General Labourer Deaf Devonport Devonshire
ROSS, Ida Louisa Daughter Single F 25 1876 Housekeeper To Head Of Family Devonport Devonshire
ROSS, Ernest Edwin Son Single M 17 1884 Silver Smith Portland Dorsetshire
ROSS, James Alfred Son Single M 13 1888 Errand Boy Torcross Devonshire
ROSS, Laura Mary Daughter Single F 11 1890 Polperro Cornwall
ROSS, Samuel George Son Single M 7 1894 Polperro Cornwall

OK, on looking at the image for Samuel Charles Jones, his marriage is in Birkenhead, 8a 1070

Here's his 'set'

Marriages Jun 1908
DIX Gertrude Birkenhead 8a 1070
Francis Frederic William Birkenhead 8a 1070
Jones Samuel Charles Birkenhead 8a 1070
Stanley Elizabeth Gertrude Birkenhead 8a 1070

Doesn't give you the answers for the missing Rugby set.


Tracey x

Ginny,

There is a very bad error in that marriage set, 2 for Rugby and 1 for Brum, impossible?

I would suggest they are all maybe Rugby?


T x

Yes i understand
Thanks all of you

It doesnt prove they acutally married!

And if they did, I think the 'missing' female would be your best bet if you buy the certificate

Ginny
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on the declaration of heirship its worded
Mary Ross Jones Widow of Samuel charles Jones

Theres a female spouse missing of this. It's in Birmingham but who knows!!

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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JONES Samuel Charles Birmingham 6d 1070
Race Thomas William Rugby 6d 1070
WRIGHT Amy Rugby 6d 1070



Stupid question but how do you know she 'married' Jones?