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I was so sure that cert was the right one i've had the data on my tree for 3 years.... my mother gave me the data!!!

I order the cert and i get all this... i cannot find a Payne/ Warby marriage other than the one i have?? Which is bizarre....


T xx

Was this the eldest sibling of Ivys?

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Payne Reginald D Warby Pancras 1b 142

Ooooooooo,yes,
I will have to think about it longer in future.

But but but Viv,

Look at the name of the father (head of house on the 1911) and the name of John's father on the marriage cert!! ...and his occupation!

LOL

Thats why i started screaming!


T xx

But, but, Tracey,,,there is no John Payne on that one that I posted,only Ethel Warby..

....and yes Ivy's parents are whom i;m trying to find.

Tracey x

Hey Viv

Well now you see that fits the marriage one.... had seen that, and started to scream at that point, cos of the precise link to the marriage....

But John Payne i have is a Railway Platelayer.... i cannot imagine him being a Gardener only 9 years later? I suppose it's possible?


Tracey x

1911??

Address:
10 Kimberley Road Fleetville St Albans

PAYNE, Jabey Head Married M 51 1860 Gardener Domestic Beds Arlesey
PAYNE, Emily Wife Married
30 years F 51 1860 Beds Henlow
PAYNE, Arthur Son Single M 24 1887 Gardener Domestic Beds Clifton
PAYNE, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Folder Printers Herts Wheathampstead
PAYNE, Charley Son M 14 1897 Feeder Printers Herts Wheathampstead
PAYNE, Ellen Daughter F 13 1898 School Herts Wheathampstead
PAYNE, Emily Daughter F 11 1900 School Herts Wheathampstead VIEW
PAYNE, Minnie Daughter F 9 1902 School Herts Wheathampstead VIEW
PAYNE, Alice Daughter F 8 1903 School Herts Wheathampstead VIEW
PAYNE, Ethel Daughter F 4 1907 School Herts Wheathampstead VIEW
>>>WARBY, Ethel Visitor Single F 28 1883 Cook Domestic Beds Luton


Edit
Whoops,just realised you want her parents...
Confusion,you are looking for Ivys parents yes?

HI All..... here we go again, another one!!!

( i just want an easy tree....please) lol

I have my Nan, Ivy Freda Grace Payne.... cert details

Born 17 May 1920, 12 Spencer Road, St Pancras.
Mother Ethel Payne formerly Warby, father John Payne, Railway Platelayer.

I am struggling to find her parents on the 1911 or indeed any census at all...and be sure it's them. I thought i had their marriage cert but i fear it's not them!!

Details are...

17th April 1911, John Payne 29 Batch, Gardener, Hatfield, Father Jabez Payne Gardener.
married Ethel Marshall Warby 28, Spin, no occ, Hatfield, Father John Warby Gardener.

Married at the Parish Church, Bishop's Hatfield.

Witness's Charles Warby & maud S Warby.

Ivy had 1 brother (that i know of) Reginald D Payne, born 2 years previous.

Ivy was married in Cairo and i am still awaiting her marriage cert.

I want to get a bit further back on Ivy's side, i'm not too certain the marriage cert is going to give me anything more than i have already, as she married during the war in a Military ceremony, so the witness's are not going to help me any!


Tracey x