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Hi Cherilyn would you please try to find a family of mine that went to victoria around 1858. there name is kisbee could be spelt kisby. He was george kisbee from barnwell northamptonshire born 1832 his wife elizabeth fellows 1835 married northampton1856. - children elizabeth born and buried northampton. - michael 1858 born victoria married 1881 elizabeth breedon 1861 - george 1859 born melbourn married 1882 victoria margaret gilmore 1855 - william 1862 born gisborn believed died 1881 melbourn - charles born 1864 kerrie married joannah foley c1867 australia 1889 - florence 1865 born havelock married henry martin 1913 melbourn had childen elsie-john-harold-herbert-emma, - anne born 1866 married henry gilmore sudbury 1891 i would be gratrful for any information on this family that you could help me with thanking you maggie

Hi Cherilyn,

Thank you so much for all the info on Phoebe and William. I didn't know about the children so that was a lovely surprise. Thank you for taking the time searching, it is much appreciated.

Regards,
Carol. :-)

Sorry Cherilyn, Alfred is abit of a mystery as i cannot even find a death for him. He is on the electoral roll 1968 but not with Beatrice in 1970 or 1980. He doesn't show on the Ryerson Index. Not sure where else to look.

Surname: SCHMIDT
Given Names: William
Age: 73
Place: Ballarat
Year: 1882
Reference: 455
Cause: Natural Causes
Occupation: Miner

Inquest concurs with age on registration, not cemetery record.

Nothing comes up for Wm on the mining accidents index. Unfortunately my goldfields hospital admissions index doesn't work with my new PC! (since Phoebe died in hospital)

I can't find marriages or deaths for sons, sorry, but hope this gives you something to go on with!

Ballarat New Cemetery

SCHMIDT PHOEBE
Age: 50
Funeral: 26/7/1886
Area : COFEB Church Of England B
Section 7
Row :
Grave : 47


SCHMIDT WILLIAM
Age: 69
Funeral: 20/4/1882
Area : COFEB Church Of England B
Section : 7
Row :
Grave : 47


Though both ages are out compared to the register, I believe this is the same couple who had sons born in Ballarat as above.

Hi Carol

Phoebe & Wm married in Victoria, not NSW.

Surname: SCHMIDT
Given Names: William
Event: M
Spouse Surname: LOVELL
Spouse Gvn Names: Phoebe Caroline
Year: 1853
Reg Number: 570

Two children born as SMITH, not SCHMIDT, father Wm, mother Phoebe LOVELL. No death found for first Wm.

Wm b. 1854 Ballarat
Wm Hy b. 1857 Ballarat

Possible death for Phoebe as SCHMIDT in 1886 in Ballarat Hospital aged 55 (reg 8055, parents not named, no middle name).

Two possible deaths for Wm as SCHMIDT - one aged 32 in 1864, born Prussia, parents not named (reg 8579). The other in 1882 in Ballarat aged 73, son of Hy & Christina (reg 4224).

Sorry Gina, I actually meant did either of those cemeteries have Alfred there? ;-)

No Cherilyn, on both the 1972 and 1980 electoral rolls she is on her own.

Gina

Hi Cherilyn,

Could you please look up a death/burial for Phoebe Caroline Schmidt in NSW. She was born Phoebe Caroline Lovell 1830 NSW, married William Schmidt in 1853 not sure where but presumably NSW, hopefully you could look that up for me too. I'm assuming she died late 1800's early 1900's. I would be so grateful for any information you could find on her/them.

Regards,
Carol.

Well the 1990 death was in NSW so it would have meant a big move! I don't suppose either of them had Alfred there?

Thanks Cherilyn. E-mailed both the above cemeteries and neither have Beatrice buried there. So i can only assume that between the 1980 electoral roll and the possible death in 1990, she must have moved again.

Hmm might be worth checking with

http://www.mtthompsoncrem.com.au/driver.asp

and

http://www.greatsoutherngardens.com.au/


They seem to be the closest cemeteries to Ormiston/Cleveland. They are not in any of the ones covered by Brisbane City Council.

I would also suggest that you follow up the NSW death notice, just in case.

Sorry I can't offer more.

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Alfred Arthur Salmon
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1968
State: Queensland
District: McPherson
Subdistrict: Cleveland (Gordon St. Ormiston)

(has wife Beatrice Eva)

Have just found out

Beatrice Eva Salmon was on her own, 1972 in Gordon St, Ormiston and in1980 she was at 198 Russell St, Cleveland.

This is info i have Cherilyn

Can't find a burial for the above Beatrice in NSW.

Whereabouts in Qld were they in 1968?

Hi Gina

This is a *possible* for Beatrice from Ryerson Index - does fit age-wise but could be a coincidence as it is in NSW not Qld.

SALMON Beatrice Death notice
28OCT1990 Death [aged] 82
late of Fairfield West, formerly of Fairfield
Sydney Morning Herald 30OCT1990

A lookup of the notice can be requested at the site, should tell you if her husband was named Alfred. Go to www.ryersonindex.org/

Will keep looking...

Not sure if you can help. I am trying to find out if Alfred Arthur Salmon and his wife Beatrice Eva Salmon died in Australia. I know from the electoral roll they were in Queensland in 1968. I was hoping that maybe it was mentioned in a newspaper. I cannot find any UK death registrations for either. Alfred was born 1895/6 and Beatrice was born 1907.


Gina

Hi Cherilyn,

thanks....there is always one that wants to make it hard,

not sure if it will help but I am going to get his birth tomorrow.

Cheers Helen,

Nope not him, he was born in Benalla (nr Winton) in 1890 to different parents. Bummer! Oh well, at least that rules him out!

Hi Helen

This Ernest who enlisted in WWI in WA is about the right age - he was a month off 25 when he enlisted in Sep 1915.

WELLS Ernest : Service Number - 3656 : Place of Birth - Winton VIC : Place of Enlistment - Blackboy Hill WA : Next of Kin - (Wife) WELLS Charlotte Augusta

He was a sleeper hewer. First address was Donnybrook (Sth West WA) and then Townsend Rd, Subiaco.

Wife Charlotte died in Perth on 21/2/1945, aged 53. Ernest died 4/11/1961 aged 71. Both late of East Perth.

He married Charlotte A COUTTS in 1914 in Wellington district (reg 22).

Hi Cherilyn,

hoping you may be able to find some info on Ernest Wells born 1889, South Melbourne, Victoria

son of William Edwin Wells 1858 - 1890
Elizabeth Vodden 1858 - 1923 (2nd marriage Toysbin)

many thanks...Helen.