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hahaha either way...glad the NSW issue showed Cherilyn where to look..

Kellie

Sorry Cherilyn,,,
I'm really not your competitor.....but what we both have access to may really kick some butt..
I am willing to sit back and wait.....

I think the child in 1911 ws to the son Arthur and a new wife...

Kellie

I would say 1911 is too late for a child of Arthur snr and Sarah Ann (b. c1864) and that this is a child of this couple:

11806/1909 MORRIS ARTHUR / FAIRALL SARAH A / MURRUMBURRAH

The child born in 1911 in Bowral, fits with death of mother in Bowral (long way from Casino, which is nr the Qld border)?

459/1964 MORRIS SARAH ANN dau of JAMES & CAROLINE BOWRAL

Daughter Annie was definitely in Casino in 1911 as you say, so...did Arthur snr die there in 1933, son of Wm & Katherine?

Arthur & Sarah's daughter Sarah Jane m. Wm Jas KIRKHAM in 1910 in Casino (reg 1201). She died in Casino in 1964 (reg 36455); Wm died in Casino in 1948. They had a daughter named Emmeline Rose KIRKHAM in 1911 (m. Geo MESKELL 1937 Casino, d. 1984 Casino).

MORRIS is definitely a very common name, too easy to make leaps! Casino & District Family History Society might be helpful (if you are still hanging in there, Reece!)

Kellie

At the time you initially posted, it seemed you were researching old requests that I had been unable to assist, or where you felt you had additional info. And I did reply, if you check back, suggesting sending a PM instead (to past 'old' posters).

That is somewhat different to responding to requests before I have even had the opportunity to reply (and on which I may already be spending time).

Sorry that I did not make that more clear, I guess I didn't want to appear rude, and still don't. No offence intended.

P.S. This is my thread, in the sense that I started it off, and offered to do lookups. It seems reasonable therefore to assume that anyone who posts here is asking for help from me. Those who wish to ask for help from the wider GR community can, and do, start their own thread.

I don't think I am being too precious or unreasonable, regardless of what you think/insinuate. Anyone else reading this thread who thinks I am, please feel free to tell me so (or alternatively, offer support!)

I think he did Cherilyn...
So did the daughter Annie...

I think Arthur and Sarah also has a LATE child born in 1911...NSW

Kellie

Really not interested in playing that game, Kellie [referring to vaguely snide comment about me while addressing Reece]...I tried to be polite. And I thought you didn't PM people?

Reece, below from trove if you haven't already got it: she was 62. Notice indicates 2 sons and a daughter...but maybe you have this info now?

The Sydney Morning Herald, Thursday 23 December 1954
IN the Estate of NEVENIA MORRIS late of Kyogle In the State of New South Wales Widow deceased -Application will be made after 14 days from the publication hereof that Administration of the Estate of the abovenamed deceased may be granted to Milvvard Earl Unicomb, Aubrey James Morris and Herbert Willlam Morris, a son in law and sons respectively of the said deceased...

Marriages:
20985/1942 UNICOMB MILWARD EARL / MORRIS JEAN MAY / CASINO
27619/1951 MORRIS AUBREY JAMES / CAMPBELL CLARE MARY / CASINO

Did Arthur Wm die in NSW in 1936, son of Arthur & Sarah Ann?


MORRIS AUBREY JAMES : Service Number - N464559 : Date of birth - 06 Jun 1924 : Place of birth - CASINO NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - MORRIS NEVENIA

and another son

MORRIS JOHN WALTER BONNER : Service Number - NX43219 : Date of birth - 20 Oct 1918 : Place of birth - CASINO NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - MORRIS NEVENIA

deaths - Ryerson
MORRIS Aubrey James (Blue) Funeral notice 22JUN1998 Death 74 late of Cedars Nursing Home, Casino
MORRIS Clare Mary Funeral notice 06JUL2008 Death at Lismore Base Hospital, late of Casino
UNICOMB Jean May Death notice 13FEB2008 Death 88 at Regis Nursing Home, Caboolture, Qld
MORRIS Nevenia Obituary 08OCT1954 Publication 62 late of Kyogle
[all notices were in Northern Star, Lismore]


Let me know if you are aware of Herbert, Milward or John being alive and I will delete info.

EDIT: Found Milward Earl's burial at Lismore, d. 6/1/1988.

Hya Reece,,
I know..
I guess I am too used to working with people and not against them...

Sorry Cherilyn...I did butt in again...

Now you think they are in NSW in 1930's might help follow them and find deaths etc...do not forget TROVE newspapers..

Kellie

Cherilyn,
Many thanks for the information re Sarah Bonner - I did wonder, so now I know to look further for her in NSW as well as Qld.

Kellie,
Many thanks for that - I can confirm that Arthur William Morris did marry Nevenia Gollan 10 Nov 1915 Hamilton and I have one child b. Casino (still living) for them.

I will have to look at the indent for the "Scottish Knight" (if possible) to see if a place name is recorded before I do any more searching in the UK.

The name "Morris" is very widespread!

Many thanks.

Reece

Hi again,
Reece,,,did Arthur William marry
1915/B17681 Morris Arthur William Gollan Nevenia

If so they are on NSW Elect Rolls and in the same area are an Arthur and Sarah MORRIS....(so the death above might just be coincidence)

Kellie

Hi,
I PM'd Reece about the families possible move to NSW and queried if Arthur died in 1902....but I just found

Marriage
groom's name: Robert Morris
groom's birth date: 1831
groom's age: 21
bride's name: Mary Ann Barbrook
bride's birth date: 1827
bride's age: 25
marriage date: 13 Apr 1852
marriage place: Norton In The Moors,Stafford,England
groom's father's name: William Morris
bride's father's name: Thomas Barbrook

Birth
name: Arthur Morris
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Aug 1852
baptism/christening place: ROCESTER,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: Robert Morris
mother's name: Mary Anne

and death in QLD
Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1902/C3448 Arthur Morris Robert Morris Mary Ann Barbrook

Kellie
Maybe?????

EDIT,,,,this Arthur is buried in South Brisbane General Cemetery..in an unmarked grave...died 21st July 1902

Hi Reece, I did initally consider that Sarah BONNER; she actually arrived with her husband George and a swag of children. Thought perhaps he died and she may have remarried...but she and George had several more children and that showed her maiden name (which eludes me presently); from here I found her death as Bonner, showing that mn. So not her I'm afraid.
It is possible it has been misspelled or mistranscribed.
OR she may have arrived first in NSW/Vic...or via NZ.

Hello Cherilyn,

Thank you for the site information.

I had another try last night using the first site you gave me and found Sarah Bonner aged 37 arriving on the "Juliet" 4 August 1874 with William aged 9. Now I have been informed by a descendant that she was born in Ireland in 1864 so I do not think that she was 37. Perhaps 27 or?? I know that they didn't always know just how old they were. Sometimes, as you know, the handwritten records are so faint that it is not always easy to read them.

Thank you once again for your kind help.

Reece

No problem. The above was from www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Immigration/Pages/Immigration1848.aspx

Hi Cherilyn,

Thank you very much for your help - this is exactly what I wanted.

I tried to find them this morning using the site mentioned in Tony's list but without success.

Reece

Arthur snr's arrival in Qld?

MORRIS Arthur [aged 21] Scottish Knight 23 Jan 1877
with Alfred (19)

Can't see Sarah's.

Thanks Kellie, maybe you can give me the chance to reply on my thread first, and then offer help if I can't? ;-)

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Hi Reece,

Yes Arthur & Sarah MORRIS nee BONNER were his parents. His birthdate at the end of Dec 1890 fits with registration in 1891. Arthur & Sarah married in Qld in 1884 in Brisbane (B9061).

Arthur jnr had 4 sisters:
Sarah Jane 1885
Rosie 1887
Annie 1888
Mary 1894

You can search for yourself at www.bdm.qld.gov.au

Hi,

I have a post a few threads down called Missing Man if you are able to help at all. Trying to confirm if my relative and the man in question in NSW are the same person.

Thanks

Karen

Thank you, Kellie.

This is the right one and now I have to find out the details of Arthur Morris, his father. I have been given a date for the marriage of Arthur Morris and Sarah Bonner of 1884 Queensland.

Can you see a birth record for an Arthur Morris c1850/60, please? I assume Queensland.

Many thanks for your help.

Reece

I'm not Cherilyn,,,but
1891/C12113 Arthur Morris Arthur Sarah Bonner

Kellie

Hello Cherilyn

Thank you for your kind offer.

I am looking for confirmation, if possible, of the birth record and parents of:

Arthur William MORRIS b. 31 December 1890 Rockhampton, Queensland


Many thanks.

Reece