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yep def 1882 stanley died 1971 i know this a hard one to trace his wife my g/mother wos rose johnson born i woolwich 1900 died portsmouth 1973 i cant fin there marrage record but wos told it wos 1917 would it be under military marrages cos stanley woa in the army 14-18 war

i also wonder if the skinner middle name comes from george lusty secord wife ie stanleys stepmother

Checking on Ancestry for his military records.

Was he a Felt Hat maker and lived in Luton please/

Nope! That Stanley Lusty was 29 years old when he enlisted in December 1915 and died of menengitis on 23 April 1917.

dont think he ever lived in luton far as i know he lived with parents in bromley london my mother told me he never liked his shepmother so left home at 12 or 14yrs old to jion navy then later jioned the army for ww1 have u got full access to records ancestry thanks root

Sorry Gary - still reading the details of that Stanley. His personal effects were passed to a Mr John Lusty at the same address in Luton as Stanley was unmarried. Mr John Lusty of 121 Ashton Road, Luton was his father and next of kin. So definately doesn't look like your man.

Lots of servicemen and women married during the wars and the marriages are normally recorded in the usual fashion - so you would still expect to see the marriage indexed.

ok only thing i got on staName: Stanley Skinner Lusty
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 Dec 1882
Father's Name: George Lusty
Mother's Name: Emma Lusty
Parish: Saint Luke, Peckham
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

nley is this that someone found for me

and thisBirth
Name: Stanley Skinner Lusty
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 931

Right Gary - that's the same child as the birth was posted earlier. IF you buy the birth certificate it will give you his father's occupation and it may then be possible to trace the family on census records. It will also give you his mother's maiden surname.



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Lusty Stanley Skinner Camberwell 1d 931

on the baptism record its got emma and george as parents but am not sure but i think her birth name wos williams but my mother has always said his mother died ggiving birth to him and she wos from cork in ireland but i found an emma williams who died in 1885 after the bith of daisy so that dont seem right

Emma's death would be listed under Emma Lusty not Williams.

Could this be their marriage but it is not in London but Gloucestershire ?Avon??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
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LUSTY George James Thornbury 6a 361
Williams Emma Thornbury 6a 361


You still need to buy the birth certificate to be sure - it could be £7 well spent!

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1885 (>99%)
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LUSTY Emma 30 London C. 1c 14

yep am almost sure thats the married and yes wos in glocs then thay moved to london dont know why i think he worked with horses but again not sure but cant find them on 1881 census thanks for your help i dont have much access to records at no ie no dd card

death seems right too cos i know she died young and geogre remarried but at that piont i have hit a brick well

is there any way of findin the census record for them

yes ur right but i have transfered the right info here any probs with that

Gary,

It has been shown that the marriage of George James to Emma Williams is unlikely to be the correct one as they have been found on the census and did not have children named Stanley and Daisy

The only way to trace the correct family is to buy the birth cert.

Christine

ok is that census just geogre and emma because the chirdren were not born until 1882 and 1884 and emma died in 1885

It's this one in 1891 posted earlier.

1891 Ancestry
Name: Emma Lusty
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George J
Gender: Female
Where born: Olveston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Uley
Ecclesiastical parish: Uley
Town: Uley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Uley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George J Lusty 47
Emma Lusty 32
Maud M Lusty 9
Ruby M Lusty 4
Tom W Lusty 3
Rose Holder 13

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2002; Folio 49; Page 6

Christine

that maybe georges secord married then

Gary,

You need to read the beginning of the thread, the same family were found in 1881 but George was using his middle name of James.

The child Florence in that census died.

Christine