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Hi Derek,

I do have all the other information you have provided but I was particularly interested in Henry as I knew Joseph and Patience had a child but on all records I have found he was down as Major or on one census Mary a son, they were Tinkers/Gypsies so that would fit that they were only there for a short while.

It was only the other day I found a Patience born at around the right time and the only one in the area where she said she was born and her fathers name was Henry, my ancestor that I was searching for (Major) said he was born in Derbyshire but all the siblings were born in Warwickshire, he was the only one I couldn't find a baptism record for but the Patience I found had a father called Henry and I know everyone seemed to name their children after fathers, brothers etc. Later on they had a son called Joseph.

Many thanks for your help I should imagine that this is the one I have been searching for for sometime now I just have to try and find his marriage which could have been anywhere in the country.

S. x

Hello again Derek,

If you have records for Barlow (and you have time) would you mind taking a look to see if you can find a marriage for a Michael Key to an Anne.

My Michael and Annes children were born between c1824-c1844, all baptised at Barlow.

Mary c1824
Hannah c1826
Amelia c1828
Ann c1831
Isaac c1833
Sarah c1838 (married a James Needham)
Michael c1840-1847
William c1844

Could you please also take a look to see if you can find Michaels baptism, also at Barlow. According to census records he was born c1801.

Thank you

Chrissie

Hello Chrissie..I don't have the Records for Barlow..which is in the Parish of Staveley.......for which my records are partial.

I cannot find the Birth or the Marriage of Michael Key..though the Census says he was born c1802 at Barlow..his wife is Ann(a)...or Anne..she appears to be from Curbar..but without a maiden name I can't find her.

I do however have the Baptism dates for their children:_

Mary 15.08.1824
Hannah 04.06.1826
Amelia 05.10.1828
Ann 16.01.1831
Isaac 16.06.1833
Sarah 26.08.1838
Michael 23.08.1840..buried 21.02.1847
William 21.04.1844.

I am due a visit to Matlock Records Office.so will look up the Barlow records as and when.

Derek.

Hi Derek,

Thank you for such a quick reply and for what you have found.

I'm hoping to get to Matlock myself soon, so may see you up there.

Chrissie

Thank you for confirming those Smedleys for me Derek,

Will be back

Sylvia (in Oz)

Hello again Colleen.......an update.

William Henry Hoskins was one of seven children of WILLIAM HOSKINS (born 28.02.1835..baptised 30.03.1853) and SUSANNAH nee EYRE..who married 13.12.1880

Susannah was baptised 07.09.1851 daughter of William and Charlotte

William Henry and his siblings were as follows:-

WILLIAM HENRY 10.07.1881
Herbert 30.08.1887
Eliza 11.08.1892
Minnie born 31.10.1905..baptised 26.11.1905

In 1891 they were living at 13 Smithy Hill.....

William Henry's father William was the son of SAMUEL HOSKIN 20.01.1829 and SARAH LONGSON who married 10.11.1851

..and the Grandson of SAMUEL HOSKIN and MARY WILMOTT who married 06.03.1826

The children (up to 1911) of William Henry Hoskin and Hannah (Elizabeth) Moore who married 02.05.1904 were:

Harold 1904
George 1906
Cyril 1907
John 1910

I still have not found the death of Susannah, and may have to travel to Matlock Records Office to do so.........

Derek.

Hi Derek,
I am trying to find a baptism and family for a James Maycock born about 1836/37. On the 1871 census (RG10/Piece1153/folio11/Pg2) he gives his place of birth as Buxton, Derbyshire. He is serving with the 95th Foot. He is not with them on the 1881 census. He must have joined the Army in the 1850's as he was involved in the Indian Mutiney.

He married a Margaret Jane Ferguson on 23 Sept 1862 at Fermoy, County Cork, Ireland. He is aged 26 years. His father is listed as William Maycock, Bricklayer.

His daughter Clara Ellen b, 1868 in India on her marriage certificate in 1891 lists James as being deceased although I haven't been able to find an appropriate death for him.

Any help would be most gratefully recieved.
Karen

Hello Karen.......the trouble is that he was not baptised at Buxton..and there are probably four James Mycocks born in the area between 1833 and 1840...........one of them at Taddington..not far from Buxton..and two at Bakewell..1833..1837........which can be confusing becasue Bakewel is a Registration Dustrict as well as a Parish the two Bakewell baptisms actually lived at Flagg in 1841...........so there is no way at the moment of knowing which James Mycock is yours....and there may be some interchange between Maycock and Mycock.....
I'll get back to you if I find anything further.

All the best.

Derek

I have now added the the following four Parish Records for ;-

STANTON BY BRIDGE
SWARKSTONE
BRASSINGTON
MELBOURNE
(All Derbyshire)
to my collection.....

Hi again Derek,

I have downloaded an abstract of a will from TNA for Adam Smedley 1748-1809, he leaves 2 daughters Hannah and Alice 60 pound each and page 2 gives thier married names,

Can you please confirm these marriages at Bonsall from IGI, submitted ofcourse.

Hannah Smedley to John Abell 22 Jan 1810

Alice Smedley to William Gratton 12 Nov 1810

Not sure if or where William fits in with my Grattons though.

Any help appeciated.

Sylvia (in Oz)

Hi Sylvia.......can comfirm the two marriages from Bonsall PR's:-

Hannah Smedley to John Abell 22.01.1810
Alice Smedley to William Gratton 12.11.1810

WILLIAM GRATTON..based on age could be one of three:-

son of Samuel and Sarah Gratton..12.04.1791
son of Samuel and Elizabeth 29.11.1795
son of Benjamim and Hannah 02.01.1785

Adam and Alice nee Heathcote married 08.11.1781

Alice Smedley baptised 03.01.1790
Hannah Smedley baptised 07.03.1795

Oddly Hannah Smedley daughter of George and Susannah was also baptised 07.03.1795

Adam Smedley was not baptised at Bonsall.

john ABELL was baptised 12.01.1783...if the spelling is correct. son of John and Dorothy...cos there are a lot of ABELS and ABELLS..some of them interchangeable due to misspelling...and of course loads of \smedleys.....

Derek.

Thank you for confirming those marriages Derek, the actual spelling on the abstract was Abel, the spelling (Abell) i gave you was from the IGI, sorry i should have given you both spellings.

Sorry to ask but could you please check the baptisms for Hannah and Alice Smedley again, you gave them the other way round last time.

That is.....

John 01.09.1782
Adam 06.08.1786 buried 14.05.1864 aged 73
Hannah 03.01.1790
Ann 06.01.1793.buried 23.01.1794
Alice 07.03.1795

I appreciate your help.

Sylvia (in Oz)

Hi Derek, told you I'd be back LOL. Does Matlock hold Repton burial records ? Just wondering if the folk from that village are all buried in St.Wystans churchyard or if there is another cemetery they would have used. Hoping to visit again this summer and do some more photos etc.
Thanks

Hi Derek,

Could you please look in your sources for the marriage of Mildred Baguley and Thomas William Foreman Dec Qtr 1863 Derby. I just need their date of marriage to add to my records. They were both born in Calverton married in Derby moved to Carlton than to London.

Thanks so much for any help you can give

Wendy

Hi Derek,
I would be grateful if you could look up any Derbyshire records that could help me to trace William Parker born in about 1844 in Derbyshire. I am trying to find the names of his parents. He got married to Sarah Jane Hickling in 1874 and the only census that I can find him is in 1881. I believe that he died around 1890. I have checked the free BMD and it is possible that his birth was registered in Shardlow in 1844; the ref. is vol 19 page 560.
Thanks,
Carol

Hi Derek,
Thank you for the info. Do any of these James's have a father William, occupation bricklayer?

Thanks again
Karen

Hi Derek

we are back home again...thanks for the info on the Hoskin/Hoskins family.

I have another request when you have time please...

Would appreciate info on Susannah and William Hoskins other children if possible to confirm the following that I have been given.

William Henry (we have done) except for death date

HOSKINS CHARLOTTE ANN b. 1882 dec. 1/4 Chesterfield
married OAKLEY or SIDDALL 1906 Dec 1/4 Rotherham

HOSKINS SAMUEL b. 1883 dec 1/4 Chesterfield


HOSKINS SARAH b. 1884 Dec. 1/4 Chesterfield
married AULT Albert 1919 Dec. 1/4 Derby

HOSKINS MARY ETHEL b. 1886 Mar 1/4 Chesterfield
married KENDELL Arthur or SMITH James E 1910 Dec. 1/4 Chesterfield

HOSKINS MINNIE b. 1888 Dec. 1/4 Chesterfield
married IVE George William jun 1/4 Chesterfield

HOSKINS JESSIE b. 1890 jun 1/4 Chesterfield
d. 1895 Mar 1/4 Chesterfield

thanks Derek
It would be much appreciated

cheers
Colleen

oops... I have been told that Susannah Hoskins(Eyre) died March 1/4 1934 Chesterfield

Hello Wendy.....I'll need to look at the Parish Records at Matlock for the marriage date.........I suspect Baguley is not Mildred's maiden name..the 1841 Census has her born 1815 at Shipley Derbys..1851 and 1861 more or less confirm the year of birth..which mean she was 48 ish when she married......and may explain why I cannot find her birth details.

Will get back to you.
Derek

Hi Derek,

It's Ok, I just thought that you had an index of Church Records that you looked at. No need for you to look for it at Matlock as I'm going a few months and I'm sure you will have lots to look for anyway. Thank you anyway.

Baguley was Mildred's maiden name, she was born 1838 in Calverton Nottinghamshire daughter of William and Mildred Baguley and I have her on all the census.
It was her mother Mildred that you found on the census her maiden was Fletcher born 1815 Derbyshire.

Wendy

Hi Derek,

I am struggling with the Fern family of Bonsall.

My 3x gt grandfather was George Fern who was born in Longwaybank 23/4/1808. George's siblings were: Sarah b. abt 1794 in Bonsall (bap 27/71794 in Bonsall); Henry b. 15/2/1799 in Bonsall (bap 7/4/1799 in Bonsall); Tamar b. 30/9/1801 in Longwaybank (bap. 8/11/1801 in Wirksworth); Joseph b. 1/6/1805 in Longwaybank (bap. 30/6/1805 in Wirksworth); James b. 9/9/1809 in Longwaybank (bap. 9/6/1810 in Wirksworth); Peter b. 19/9/1812 (bap. 15/11/1812 in Wirksworth)

Parents were Henry and Sarah. I believe that Sarah was Sarah Toplis and that they married 14/9/1791 in Bonsall.

I haven't a clue who Henry's parents were. I guess he was dead before the 1841 census so don't even know when he was born. In 1841, George was living in Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester with his family and with him was Sarah Ferns aged 73 not born in Lancashire. That puts her birth in abt. 1768 which fits in reasonably with the batism of Sarah Toplis 15/9/1769 in Wirksworth.

So, any info on Henry's parents would be marvellous. Also any info on his children, Henry, Tamar and Peter for whom I only have birth and baptisms.

George died 26/10/1877 in Manchester, sister, Sarah in St. Asaph 13/1/1876, Joseph Oct 1871 (I believe in Bonsall) and James 1/8/1882 in Oldham.

Cheers.

Phil Fern.

Marple, Cheshire