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Derek, bit of a confusion on your posting to me 23rd Oct. Please take a look at Hannah Atherley daughter of Henry and Sarah. Are dates reversed ?? Also found other Sarah on 1861 with Rebecca,Richard and yet another son Herbert(Larson) born abt 1843 did he have same father Richard ? and also any idea who was this Sarah's father and any sign of details for Richard Larson ? or was his name Sarson if so I may have found his probate record but widow is different nameThank you

Derek, Many thanks for all your recent help.

Maurice

Hi LA..Theo!! Theo!!.......lol....no not reversed..just mistyped..sorry..should read Hannah born 15.02.1851..died 08.03.1851..........

and I was suggesting that Sarah had more than one illegitimate child because there is no record of her marriage.........and i have Larson....not Sarson..in both names..though who he was have yet to find out.

Derek.

Cesc Cesc Cesc !!! He's my number one LOL.
Thanks for date for Hannah. I found Hertbert and Robert both the same year on a census but then they both seem to disappear. Been searching both Larson and Sarson as it is on one census entry for the kids. Only Larson / Sarson I can find about the right age is from Leicester but I am still searching.
La

Gooner .good morning......The Sarah Atherley who gave birth to Rebecca Richard and Herbert..was unmarried when she had all three children.(1861 census) .and is therefore not the Sarah married to Henry.....Rebecca who married William Wayte..lists her father as Richard Sarson...(not henry Atherley).....whom Sarah never married..........told you she was a naughty girl!
Derek.

There's a least one in every family LOL. I appear to have more than my fair share LOL. Found a Sarson family as large as life (or death LOL) in Repton this needs a very close look. now quite interesting I have found a widower Richard Larson,constable and tax collector born 1809 Middx, in Repton on the 1851 census. Was it only tax he collected ???? LOL

Collected the Taxes and distributed his largesse.............I have found a RICHARD SARSON and a RICHARD LARSON who married a SARAH SMITH at Repton 15.05.1830............who could well have been a widower by 1851...........and maybe had a penchant for Derbyshire girls called Sarah...........lol...
...............EDIT..and I've found the same Richard you found in 1851..but in 1841 with the same two children...so i'm quite happy that this is the man who married sarah Smith in 1830..let's start our own News of the World!!!


Derek.

LOL Derek, oh what naughty people they are in Repton !!!!. Trust me to be related to loads of them . It is intriguing me though. Have also found son Richard buried as Sarson in St.Wystans.

Hallo Derek
When you said you could not be 100% on Ellen C Faulkner -
CORRECT she was infact Ellen Caroline. You must have 6th sence when you search.I have spoken to a cousin in New Zealand she said my nans date of birth was 26th Feb 1878.If you get time when you next go to Matlock would you mind looking to see if they have any info on Union workhouse Rowditch Derby.
Many thanks
Regards
Jan

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For Richard.

Hello Derek,First time here I am hoping you can help me.
My Great Grandmother Ann Harrison was born abt 1803 in Heage to John Harrison & Ann ? (I think she might be Hunt) are you able to find the children born to John Harrison & Ann Hunt to confirm that she is my GG Grandmother.
The children I have for John & Ann are:
Mary abt 1797 died 9/3/1855
Benjamin 1798
John 1802
Ann 1803
Hannah 1805
June 1806
Susanna 1807 died 2/11/1885
Thank you for any help you can give
Kind Regards
Ellen

hi dereck'
thanks for your recent reply
im trying to find out more info on my ggggrandparents lived i think on 1841 census peter st werburgh they were william pearson born chelleston derbys wife sarah west indies , cant findmaiden name place of birth, williams father was a richard pearson born chelleston as well widower, cant also find any info about his wife, he lived with his son william and family
any help dereck would be much appreciated
all the best teresa

Hell John (White)..thanks for your PM..though as i have written to you, please use this thread for communication..by clicking on "REPLY" and then "SUBMIT" rather than on my name.
On here your enquiry is open to everyone and others may be able to halp you as well as me.

So....It was JAMES SPOONER who married MARY UNWIN at Old Brampton 30/03/1812..not Joseph.......and JOSEPH SPOONER baptised 07.03.1813 is their son...I cannot atthis moment give you his birthdate becasue PR's by and large onlky give Baptismal dates.

Neither James nor Mary were born in old Brampton....and if you're happy that they married at age 42 and had their first child at 43..which is uncommon to0 say the least..then Mary Unwin was born Dronfield Chesterfiel 1772 ..but I have to tell you that there is a James Spooner baptised ld Brampton 09.09.1792 son of James Spooner..which on the fa`e of it appears a more likely father for Joseph 1813.

Depends on how much you know and what your sources are. Please let me know.

Derk....

Hallo Ellen.......the only confirmation that i can give you at the moment is that BENJAMIN was baptised 16.05.1798 son of John and Ann......but its a start!! will get back to you.
EDIT 13.43....ok.....If you bear in mind that Heage, Belper and Duffield are all more or less the same place ,with Duffield being the parish, then i can now give you a bit more info:

ANN HARRISON baptised Duffield daughter of John and Ann Harrison 07.08.1803.
Have also found Susannah 12.04.1807 Duffield, same parents..known as Sukey!..

Cannot yet find a marriage for John and Ann..though it is not impossible that he married AnnHARDY 21.11.1795 at Sawley long eeaton....grooms usually travelled to the bride's Parish in order to marry her, then whisked her away to his own parish!!


Derek.

hi dereck hope you got my message earlier i think ive been making mistakes on thread i saw one of your messages click on reply then submit i will try this, thanks teresa

Hi teresa.....sorry about the delay.....I think I have done some work for you on this family..I see to remember the West indies connection....but for me to pick up on it I need you to give me a date for either William or Richard.

Derek.

Hi Derek
Do you have marriages at Chesterfield for 1822? I have found what I think is a marriage of my ancestors there on the familysearch site but wondered if you could check yours if you have them to see if gives any more info, ie, witnesses.
Matthew Cutts (could be down as Coults or Coutts) to Faith (should be Cockayne) in 1822.

Im also looking for the baptism/parents of Faith Cockayne. According to IGI, she was baptised in 1802, mother Faith but no father named. However, I have found a marriage of a George Cockayne to a Faith Walker in 1792 at Chesterfield and wonder if George maybe died and then Faith went on to have my Faith illegitimately? Do you have burial records for Chesterfield to check if he died?

Sorry for such a long list. Hope this is ok.
Many thanks
Claire

Hi Claire...if it's Chesterfield itself rather than one of the many Parishes that make up parts of Chesterfield..I don't have the records....they are far too large to make available.........so I can't help you at this moment till I go to matlock...but I will look through what i've got around and about...

Derek.

Hi Derek

Im very sorry, I should have been more specific. Its the parish church of Chesterfield...St Mary I think its called.

Regards
Claire