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Do you actually have Margaret Pearce's birth certificate?

Margaret Pearce is in the 1881 census, so she is not this Margaret Pearce, whom I had been thinking of:

Births Dec 1881
PEARCE Margaret Carmarthen 11a 802


Births Sep 1879
John Margaret Narberth 11a 821
Births Dec 1879
John Margaret Catherine Narberth 11a 786
Births Mar 1880
JOHN Margaret Elizabeth Narberth 11a 819
Births Jun 1881
JOHN Margaret Anne Narberth 11a 909


but most likely of course:

Births Dec 1879
Pearce Margaret Narberth 11a 795

There still isnt a birth for Owen in the right area in the right years under any of the names though.

???
Name: Owen Evans
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Carmarthen
County: Carmarthenshire, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 1259

Christine ................ you have Owen Pearce 1903 in your tree .................

As I was saying about disclosing ALL THE INFO YOU HAVE .................


Oh, not to mention the business about Margaret JOHN Pearce I now see -- and where might that appear, if we may so boldly ask?

Connections then

Dead sisters name.
John in Margarets name on some things.

Starting to add up better!


You really need to send for that Brigdet John birth cert.
If not Owens marriage as well to see who he says his father is.

I have a Bridget Louisa Pearce., Margaret Pearce sibbling, born 1882 died in 1887 in my tree.
I also have been told that Margaret Pearce was down as Margaret John Pearce, on some document.
This is getting very complicated.

There is just no birth of an Owen or a Nathaniel or a Pearce or a John to match that Owen Pearce in the 1911 -- but as Vicci has found, there is a marriage.

I think I'd want to see that marriage certificate as well as the Bridget John birth certificate!

Im with you there Janey.

She wouldnt be the first or the last,as we well know in this game of family history.

So we come down to this may well be Rose!


Births Sep 1907
JOHN Bridget Narberth 11a 1301

There is no marriage of a Bridget John anywhere, 1923-1943. There are marriages in 1978 (plain Bridget John) and 1964 and 1969 (with middle initials), is all.

As so far transcribed, there's no death of a Bridget John born c1907.


I'm thinking that Bridget John just completely reinvented herself.

Only one way to find out if Bridget is Rose

Send for the birth cert.
Her D.O.B and mothers name will tell all.

marriage of Owen Nathaniel Pearce

Name: Owen N Pearce
Spouse Surname: Harris
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Swansea
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 2266

died Name: Owen Nathaniel Pearce
Birth: 26 Jun 1904
Death: Oct 1992 - Swansea, Glamorgan

I've been exploring possibilities ... that Margaret Pearce was married to a John so had to register her child as a John but the father was really a Probert ... etc etc -- to no avail so far!


The only Frank Probert in the vicinity in 1911:

PROBERT FRANK 1890 21 Llanelly Carmarthenshire

Thats what we want to know Christine...

And she is down as Grandaughter on the original which I have just looked at.
But she was born about the time of your mother Rose.

Look to Janeys post for her birth details.

Who is - JOHN , Bridget daughter 4 ?

Bridget John
The original says she is GRANDDAUGHTER!

Aha -- I hadn't done my a, b, c search through the Pearce household.

Well.

Births Sep 1907
JOHN Bridget Narberth 11a 1301


Now what's the chance this is our Rose Pearce/Probert??

(She obviously isn't "daughter" of Elizabeth Pearce in 1911.)


Births Sep 1901
Pearce Edith Selina Carmarthen 11a 1211

NO birth for an Owen Pearce in a reasonable location.

Well those kids are def not Margarets siblings on this census.

Bridget John,,daughter to Elizabeth??

1911 for Margaret Pearce.

PEARCE, ELIZABETH HEAD MARRIED F 61 EGLWYSCUMMIN
PEARCE, MARGARET DAUGHTER SINGLE F 32 CHARWOMAN PENDIN
PEARCE, EDITH CELINA GRANDDAUGHTER F 10 SCHOOL LANGHAM
PEARCE, OWEN GRANDSON M 7 SCHOOL LANGHAM
JOHN, BRIDGET DAUGHTER F 4 EGLWYSCUMMIN


address

PEARCE MARGARET (RG14PN33107 RG78PN1897 RD600 SD2 ED11 SN15)
Address GROVE COTTAGE PENDINE County Pembrokeshire
District Narberth Subdistrict Narberth
Enumeration District 11 Parish Eglwys Cymmyn


I think William must have been just visiting Samuel.

Births Sep 1907
Howells Rose Ellen Narberth 11a 1297

She is in the 1911 with parents David and Martha Ann. Just for ruling out purposes -- the only Rose registered in the county in Q2 Q3 1907.

Owen Pearce
and
Edith Selina Pearce are my mothers sibblings.