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fudge1

fudge1 Report 18 Feb 2009 20:22

Kirsty , just been grave hunting this morning, found Ggrandfather,s on my grandmothers marriage cert he is James
Thomson Arnold ,on grave he is Thomson Arnold ,also i totally had wrong birth year, he was 1884,! not sure if you are able to help with Scotland? he married Lillias Small Bonthron Thomson July 1906 ,at 2 Holyrood Quadrant ? living at ,145 Garscube Rd.
my aunt has held me up for nearly a month promising nans
birth cert, and still no show, so will have to order that myself..
thanks gill

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 18 Feb 2009 20:15

Kirsty

Would you like a challenge?? My gt grandmother is a non-person before her marriage.

My gt grandparents Walter Jarrett and Charlotte Maria Doncaster were married in December 1902 Marylebone. Charlotte's father was down as William Henry Doncaster decd - one of the witnesses was a W H Doncaster - possibly brother?

Walter Jarrett born 1876 Marylebone - can't find him on the 1901 census.

Charlotte Maria Doncaster born 1879 Kensington according to the 1911 census. Can't find any birth details for her or any census return that links her to any parents. The other two Charlotte Doncasters born around that time in Hackney and Lambeth have the wrong fathers.

I have found a Charlotte Doncaster in a nursing home in Herne Bay in 1881, a Maria Doncaster in an orphanage in 1891 and can't find either a Maria or Charlotte in 1901.

Charlotte would have been about 5/6 months pregnant with their first child at the time of the 1901 census. She lied in the 1911 census and said she's been married 13 years when she had only been married 9.

There is a birth registration for a Maria Doncaster in 1879 in Kensington - birth certificate has parents as Henry Doncaster and Susan Savill - address 16 Hayden Mews, Kensington. These Doncasters in 1881 have no Maria with them but they do have a son called William (possibly the witness at the marriage).

If you have time could you see if you could find them on the 1901 census.
There is a Walter Jarrett with a wife Elizabeth in 1901 but he's from Nottingham - so don't think he's mine.

Charlotte's doing my head in - if she weren't already dead I'd throttle her!

Thanks
Dee

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 18 Feb 2009 19:47

Gill just realised you have your Nan's marriage cert not his ~ another blonde moment!!

Give me the info of your Nan and I will try and have a look for her birth and parents marriage

Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 18 Feb 2009 19:46

Dave I will have a good look tomorrow for you when the kids are out!

Gill

Name: James Arnold
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: West Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hartlepool St Paul
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Police Constable

Name: James W Arnold
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Georgina V E
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Wavertree
Ecclesiastical parish: Wavertree Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Book keeper

There is another 1 but at the moment am unable to look at original.

Who, when & where did he marry I will try and trace her and might be able to find him that way?

Kirsty

fudge1

fudge1 Report 18 Feb 2009 17:44

Hi Kirsty, big ..huge,,,,massive favour please, could you help me with 1901 census for my Ggrandfather James Arnold born Ireland , there are two ...
one born 1875 ,showing as living at Durham,West Hartlepool, another
born 1877, he is at Wavertree, the years are about right,

He was a Ferry Engine Keeper on my nans marriage cert, so am hoping
similiar occupation might give me some clue, stuck on this one,
dont know what else to try,? just googled Wavertree and its across the sea from Dublin,so that might be him ?
gill


dgcgeni

dgcgeni Report 18 Feb 2009 11:07

Hi Kirsty

My name is Derek Crabtree and looking for relatives before 1820.
Jonathan Crabtree born 1820 in Hebdon Bridge, Yorkshire.
Apparent two wives; Mary Allison 1831 And Jane Ellison 1845 I think both were born in Bishop Aukland, Durham.
Between them they had 10 Children.
As far as I am aware Jonathans farther was also a Jonathan and possible wife Betty.
His Father was born about 1808 and married around 1742ish
Hope you can help

Derek G Crabtree

[email protected]

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 18 Feb 2009 10:30

Dave,
for record

Name: Frederick Rogers
Mother's Maiden Surname: Leeds
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1922
Registration district: Marylebone
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 856

possible death?
Name: Frederick Rogers
Birth Date: 24 Sep 1922
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 2005
Age at death (estimated): 82
Registration district: Daventry
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Register number: 27B
District and Subdistrict: 668/1
Entry Number: 20

marriages
There are loads
I will give you the locations and date and if anything jumps out I will follow it up for you

1940
Q1 Dudley & Liskeard
Q2 Leicester
Q3 Selby
Q4 Warwick & Surrey mid E
1941
Q1 Durham C
Q2 Ploughley
Q3 ~
Q4 Bromley
1942
Q1 -Q4 ~
1943
Q1 ~
Q2 Cannock
Q3 ~
Q4 ~
1944
Q1 Sheffield
Q2 ~
Q3 Basford
Q4 Worksop
1945
Q1 ~
Q2 ~
Q3 Wrexham, Cardiff, Surrey mid E & Bangor
Q4 Bridgend & Birmingham
1946
Q1 ~
Q2 ~
Q3 ~
Q4 Bethnal G & Birmingham
1947
Q1 Salford
Q2 ~
Q3 ~
Q4 ~
1948
Q1 ~
Q2 Sunderland & Liverpool S
Q3 ~
Q4 ~
1949
Q1 - Q4 ~
1950
Q1 Hull
Q2 Warrington
Q3 ~
Q4 ~

Do you have any other information that might help?

He may have gone to war and died??

Kirsty

David

David Report 18 Feb 2009 08:27

hi i am dave
trying to find out if frederick rogers born sept 1922 marylebone 1a 856
did he ever marry and have any childern and when he died can you help as i seem to have hit a brick wall at the moment any help would be great thanks from
dave ( an aussie)

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 13 Feb 2009 12:15

Cheryl,

Can you give me anymore info about James, William or Louisa?

Who did James marry and do you have the marriage certificate?


Kirsty

fudge1

fudge1 Report 13 Feb 2009 11:42

Kirsty, thankyou so much,thats them. thought i'd found a death for John Smith but obviously not,.. where are you that you've had no snow,??i thought pretty much the whole country had been affected, have you bothered looking out the window the last few weeks!!!!!!! ha ha .

thanks again Kirst you're just so handy to have around.


Gill

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 13 Feb 2009 10:55

Gill,

If you are fed up with the snow send some more my way PLEASE!!

IS this them in 1881?

Name: Lydia Smith
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stourbridge
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: 95 High St
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 63
Mary A. Smith 49
Lydia Smith 8


and 1891?
Name: Lydia Smith
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stourbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 72
Mary Ann Smith 62
Lydia Smith 18


1901

Name: Mary Ann Smith
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stourbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Stourbridge St John
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Smith 70 ~wid


Speak soon

Kirsty

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 13 Feb 2009 07:35

Hi there 'mad mom'

I am wondering whether you could look up William Whare born 1851 Winchester, I have found him in the 1861 cencus but need to know his dads' name. for some reason I cannot find this,even though he had a sister born after him, his brother was my gr gr grandfather James and I seem to be having difficulty finding the dad. Could you please help. I am stuck with my tree and cannot continue, don't know where to start, I am from South Africa andI have tried various sites but seem to be hitting a brick wall. It would be great if you could find any info for me

Thanks

Cheryl

fudge1

fudge1 Report 12 Feb 2009 23:08

Hi Kirsty, when you have a moment could you help me with an 1891,,,for
Lydia Smith 1873, Stourbridge West Midlands, Father John Smith is on the 1881, but not expecting him on 1891, as have found possible death..

hope your well....just had another snowfall here..getting a little fed up with the stuff now,,take care ,gill

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 10 Feb 2009 11:16

Angie,

Info for 1861
Thomas 1803 Essendon
Elizabeth 1812 Essendon
Margaret E 1857 Essendon

1841

Name: Thomas Pallett
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Essendon
Hundred: Hertford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Pallett 74 ~ Wid
Elizabeth Pallett 45 ~ Wid?
Henry Pallett 40 ~ Farmer
Thomas Pallett 38 ~ Farmer


Lower Farm Westend??

1871

Name: Thomas Gullett
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Essendon, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Essendon
Town: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gullett 68
Elizabeth Gullett 59

Should be Pallett

Can't find them in 1851

Kirsty

angie2405

angie2405 Report 9 Feb 2009 21:15

Thank you VERY much for searching through the census for my Hammond Pallett.

Could you possibly give me the details of Thomas and Elizabeth & Margaret from the 1861 census please [I only have their names - no other details ]? I don't suppose there is any record of them on the 1841 and later census ?



kind regards

Angie

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Feb 2009 13:24

Angie,

1871

Name: Hammond Pallett
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Rickminsworth, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Essendon
Town: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Hammond Pallett 25
Fanny Pallett 20
Hammond B Pallett 3
Elizabeth Pallett 2

1891

Name: Hammond Pallett
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmouworth, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Essendon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Hammond Pallett 45
Fanny Pallett 41
Ellen Pallett 19
Thomas J Pallett 17
George Pallett 12
Mary Ann Pallett 7
Martha J Pallett 5
Charles Pallett 3
Janes E Pallett 13


1901

Name: Hammond C Pallett
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Essendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Essendon St Mary the Virgin
Town: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Hammond C Pallett 55 ~widow
Thomas J Pallett 26
James E Pallett 24
Martha J Pallett 15
Charles Pallett 11


hang on

1861

Name: Hammond C Pallett
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Pallett 58
Elizabeth Pallett 49
Hammond C Pallett 15
Margaret E Pallett 4



1901

Name: Hammond Pallett
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ada
Gender: Male
Where born: Essendon, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Essendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Essendon St Mary the Virgin
Town: Essendon
County/Island: Hertfordshire

Household Members: Name Age
Hammond Pallett 33
Ada Pallett 27
Hammond Pallett 6
Rose Pallett 5
Florence Pallett 3
Ernest Pallett 1


Can't find him in 1891


Kirsty

angie2405

angie2405 Report 8 Feb 2009 21:28

Hi Kirsty

I found one of my families on the 1881 census living in Essendon Herts:
Hammond Charles PALLETT c1845 Essendon
Fanny PALLETT c1851 Essendon and children - all born Essendon:
Hammond 15
Elizabeth F 12
Ellen 9
Wilmer Robert 8
Thos John
James Edmund 5
George 2

could you see if you can find them on the 1871, 1891, 1901 census please?

If its not to much to ask could you look to see you can find Hammond Pallett [c1868] who married Ada Merry [b1873 Beckley Oxon] - I haven't found a marriage for them - I know they had a son called Hammond born 1894 - so not sure if they appear on the 1891 but should be on the 1901 Census.

Kind regards

Angie

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Feb 2009 23:16

Barbara,

I will have another go tomorrow

Kirsty

Davies

Davies Report 7 Feb 2009 22:15

Hi Kirsty,
I got Harriet Barry's name from John Turner's death certificate. He died at Harden NSW Australia in 1945. On the certificate I got his Father's name as George Turner, bricklayer and mother Harriet Barrry. On the death certificate it had John born Manchester but on his marriage certificate when he remarried my grandmother his birth place was Yorkshire.

His daughter Catherine who he left behind in England was brought up by Anne's parents, I don't know surnames but their was a clue on the England and Wales BMD, there is a Catherine Turner born in 1906 and an Annie Turner death in 1906. I don't know how to link these up.

Than I tried to find a marriage between John Turner and an Annie in 1905-1906 but drew a blank?

Regards Barbara



fudge1

fudge1 Report 7 Feb 2009 20:21

Kirsty brilliant, yes thats them,,so pleased Ellen ended up
living with daughter Annie, she had such a terrible time bless her,

Thankyou very,very,muchly, take care,

gill xx