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Yes, Victor that is what I think too as I found the above marriage in 1908 for Mary Elizabeth Fullwood and it's not to a Mr Devine

Catherine

That is what I am trying to find out too. I do not think that Mary Elizabeth is the correct person, as the record for the marriage just says Mary Fullwood.


Victor

On your Gran's marriage cert what details does it give about her father?

duh to me sorry

Ezekiel Fullwood b 1863 Dec Q Basford son of Moses and Mary
Ezekiel Married 1884 Jun Q Basford Mary Jane Jones
Died 1916 Sep Q Basford

If she was born in 1899 she would have been 13 when your gran was born in 1912

Mary Devine on the birth certifiacte, Mary Grundy on the Marriage cert she married my granddad John Raymond Grundy

Sarah

What was your Grandmothers name on her marriage certificate and birth certificate please??

Victopr

Gillian, my concern is that it didn't show Mary Elizabeth Fullwood on the marriage cert and I've found this marriage
Marriages Dec 1908
DICKSON Edward Thomas Basford 7b 385
>>>FULLWOOD Mary Elizabeth Basford 7b 385
GREEN Helena Basford 7b 385
HAYWOOD Amos Basford 7b 385

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What we know so far.

1.) Mary Fullwood married Samuel Devine Oct-Dec 1911

2.) Mary Devine birth Apr-Jun 1912 (no fathers name)

Now there are only two reasons why the fathers name is not listed (as far as I am aware) a) The fathers name was not known. b) The mother did not wish to say who the father was.

What do the rest of you think??


Victor

Yes I think so
In 1891 Ezekiel 27 is Joiner b Ilkeston with wife Alice and children Moses 6,Mary4, Alice 3mths all b Ilkeston

gillian i think you might be looking at the right person,

my grandma was born in ilkeston derbyshire

on my grandma marrage certificate it says her madian name is Devine before she married my grandad and change her surname to grundy,

The Mary Elizabeth Fullwood I have suggested would be 24 when she married and Ilkeston is in reg dist of Basford

What does it say on her marriage certificate for father??


Victor

i don't know how old her mum was when she had my grandmother but she could well have been 13 i going to ask my uncle know and see if he knows hopefully he will have a bit more information

It is not a mistake, it is just different peoples way of spelling the name.

It looks like your Grandmother was Illigitimate if it does not have her fathers name listed.

But why was she given the name of Devine??


Victor

i have access to my grans birth certificate but for some reason it does'nt say the fathers name, it only says the mothers surname, my uncle new her as mary, its all a bit comfusing as on the birth cert her name is spelt fulwood and on the marriage certificate is say Fullwood so i dont know whether they have made a mistake,

But that would make her only 12 when she married