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No I would say this is the Walter Isaac Jackson and Elizabeth Stuckey .
Walter is obviously known by Jackson and Fisher.Thats why Ethel Victoria Fisher Jackson has both names and why Walter married as Jackson.

My gt grandfathers surname was Burden.
He married as Darby Burden. Darby being his grandfathers name. His grandparents never married.
His grandfather died leaving a will in which gt grand was left money.
After gt grand married he dropped the surname Burden and registered all his children as Darby


When I was looking for gt grand Darby on the census he disapears going backwards. It was only after getting his marriage cert I found him under Burden. His grandmother Burden had one of the grandchildren living with her in 1851

Hi margaret,

Is this Walter, Walter Isaac Jackson's father? and family?

1901 census.
Walter Fisher 1865 St Luke Middlesex.occ labourer
Elizabeth Jackson wife 1872 Camden.
Bertha Jackson dau 1899 Holloway Middlesex

address 154 St Marys Rd Edmonton parish

Can anyone find anything on Walter Isaac Jackson at all, all that has been found is a census for when he was living with the Graham family and i cant find anything as keep looking.

Thankyou Glen your very kind.

I've probably had a bit more practice with the census.

If and when you need any help just shout out, this thread has lots of stuff that we can either use or discount at some point and make things a bit clearer for you.

Glen

Hi Glen,

I will get the birth cert next and go from there afterwards. The census im useless with and really it aint hard to work out but gets all too confusing for me.

Jo

Jo

You certainly aren't useless, far from it, there is a lot of info posted in the thread (maybe too much but that is my fault) and it takes time to to sort through it.

Start with the birth cert for Jane Elizabeth, that will at least give us a clue as to whether James and Leah are her parents.

Assuming (for now) they are her parents you can then work on confirming the birth/marriage details for James and Leah The census information is a useful a guide to where and when things happened.

Working back one generation at a time is the key, once you confirm the early stuff the census returns will make more sense,the census gives clues but it isn't the be all and end all of research anyway.

I wouldn't worry about the death for Daniel at the moment, best to work steadily backwards and confirm that Daniel is part of the family before rushing in to kill him off.


Glen

Hi Glen,

I see what you mean about they could all be related but say i got 1 or both certs i wouldnt know which is right anyway as dont know his parents names.
Im still trying to figure this all out lol, sorry im useless with all this.

Jo

There are two Daniel Stuckey deaths in the area, both born about the same time


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Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Stuckey Daniel 80 Brentford 3a 47

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Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%)
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Stuckey Daniel 85 Pancras 1b 120


All i can say is that one of them is a Daniel who appears in the census and is consistently connected to Twickenham, the other one could well be the Daniel i posted census details for yesterday (time of the post was 18.31). He was born in Somerseat.

Regarding the birth certificate;

If the worst case happens and you have to order both then the "wrong" one isn't totally wasted, because there are two Stuckey familes in the area at the same time the information on the certificate could be useful at a later date.

Glen

Hi Margaret,

Thankyou for finding Daniel but is this his death? And was he born in Pancras aswell?

Jo

Hi Glen,

Ok thankyou for the information. I will go with the first one then, was going to orer the second as Edmomton isnt far from Islington.

Jo

Daniel Stuckey born 1803 died 1888 dec qt Pancras gro ref 1b 120.

I think the best way forward is to apply for the certificate but use the checking point system

Basically you quote the year, quarter, volume and page number as usual but add the name of a parent. I might be wrong but i think the price goes up slightly from the usual £7, to be honest i have never tried a ref check but in a case like this i think it is worthwhile.

So let's just say you put Leah down as the checking point then if her name is recorded as the mother the cert will be issued. If her name isn't on the record then the GRO won't issue the cert and give you a part refund.

The main drawback is that the entry must be spelt the same on the cert as your application so if for example you put Leah but on the cert it is spelt Lear then they won't issue the cert.

Deciding which one is awkward, just on a hunch i would go with the first one you posted (Pancras). I would use Leah as the check point simply because it is a rarer name.

At the end of the day though the choice of which one and whether to add a ref check is yours to make but i believe it's your best option.

Glen

Ok i will get Jane Elizabeth's birth cert but which of these 2 should i get as not sure.

Jane Elizabeth Stuckey
1872 Pancras
2nd qtr
1b 183

Or

Elizabeth Stuckey
1872 Edmonton
3rd qtr
3a 181

The second dosent have Jane in the name!!

The next stage is to find the birth certificate for Elizabeth Jane, if that confirms that James and Leah are her parents then it will make finding the references for the family easier.

The census can be a good indicator but to confirm everything you need something a bit more substantial, eg certificates or church records. Assuming for a moment that the details posted are correct then at least you have a flying start to that side of the family.

As for your original question about the Fisher name, i think that must lie with Walter Isaac Jackson and his side of the family.

I can't find him in the '71 at the moment


1861
Daniel Stuckey
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Kingsbury Episcopi
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Langport
Sub registration district: Langport
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Stuckey 55
Mary Stuckey 60


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1630; Folio: 87; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542842.

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1851 England Census (image looks like Stuckey)
about Daniel Huckery
Name: Daniel Huckery
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Lambrook, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Kingsbury Episcopi
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Langport
Sub registration district: Somerton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Huckery 45
James Huckery 23
Mary Huckery 51

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1841 England Census
about Daniel Stuckey
Name: Daniel Stuckey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Kingsbury Episcopi
Hundred: East Kingsbury
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Langport
Sub registration district: Langport
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Stuckey 35
James Stuckey 14
Mary Stuckey 45


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 949; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Kingsbury Episcopi; County: Somerset; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 37; Page: 4; Line: 18; GSU roll: 474600.

1861 census.
Daniel Stuckey 1806 Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset occ ag.lab.
Mary wife 1801 no place of birth given

adress West Langbrook Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset


1851 census transcribed as Huckery ( Stuckey on image)
Daniel Huckery 1806 West Lambrook Somerset.occ ag.lab.
Mary wife 1806 West Lambrook
James son 1828 West Lambrook occ ag.lab.

address West Lambrook Kingsbury Episcopi. which is in the Langport reg.district

James Stuckey claims hes from Langport in 1881

You need to look at parish records for pre 1837 births. Try www.familysearch.org.
Look at the IGI ( International Genealogical Index)Extracted records are more reliable than submitted

Hi Glen,

Oh ok, i thought they are my family lol. see im bit dim with all this.
Didnt know you cant get certificates before 1837 right?
Thankyou for looking about Daniel.