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Flick,

There are a lot of people of 85 and older living today....some of them

come on these boards so I wouldn't write them off just yet!

Kind regards,

Cathy

Mille mercis, Flick. ;)

I think Joanne was young at the time and he was just "Uncle Rusty", Dad's brother!

Cathy -- whether it was the correct or incorrect person, the possibility of them being living is the main thing.

These threads are found by internet search engines. Granted, I, for one, am saying some rather personal things here about the people. But I haven't actually given the name of the person in question. No one googling his name (or his children's names -- and I'm going to alter the wife's name now) will find this thread and the discussion of the family.

It actually might be wise for Joanne to delete the thread (and the one on Chat) *after a few days*, when everyone who had posted in it has a chance to see her thanks for their help. ;)

I generally oppose deleting threads because of all the info that might be needed for further searching or could help someone else -- in the case of ancestor hunts. For living people hunts, I think it's probably best in most cases.

Have found and PMed marriages for three daughters and am checking BT on line and 192.com ...

Well done, Janey................how on earth did Joanne not know that?

People married in 1943 are extremely unlikely to be alive today.......on the other hand, someone born in 1939 most probably is.

Janey, I am a confused as to why you think I should remove a 1939 birth

record when you have posted a 1943 marriage record?

I also see that Joanne said she "believed" her uncle was born in 1939 in

Great Yarmouth so I assumed she didn't know for certain.....

I was obviously wrong and will remove it.

I think I have indeed solved it. Nah -- I know it. ;)

Look for the marriage of Marie L to the surname of the Birkenhead birth, in 1963. (Using "exact search" at Ancestry lets you search for marriages and births by given name plus spouse's surname or mother's surname, without specifying the person's own surname.)

And then births with that mother's surname and the surname we thought was a given name (see the Birkenhead births). ;)

Will PM details to Joanne.

Now it's just a matter of finding them.


Note that I'm also sending Joanne what could be less good news.

We're talking about people who are likely living here and there are some fine lines when it comes to what should be posted in public.

Joanne already had the info about the 1939 birth, as she said, so there's no need for those details to be posted here -- and even if she didn't, it's something that should be sent by private message. Everybody else here can easily find it if they want it. Cathy, would you delete it please? We don't even know whether that is the person in question, and if it isn't, it's personal info about somebody who isn't even connected to this and doesn't know he's being talked about.

Joanne, you may have to send for some random-looking certificates -- but the one you do need to get is the George Hubbard + May McCornick marriage I posted on page 1 (which you confirmed by private message is your grandparents -- note though that her name is McCorNick, not McCorMick, and that is quite important).

That will tell you whether either of them had been married before, and, if May had been, what her first husband's surname was. It's possible that some of these children were hers by a previous marriage, for instance. It's possible that she had a child or children with George Hubbard before marrying him. What the couple's status was at the time of their marriage is important info.

There is a May McCornick birth in West Derby in 1909, but that's the only one. That one's possible. But only the marriage certificate will tell (her age, father's name and marital status).

Start there. You can order the certificate at

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Okay, I have a theory. The Hubbard-McCornick marriage was in Birkenhead in 1943. Anyone who wants to have a look, check for McCornick births in Birkenhead in 1941 and 1942. ;) (And note one double registraton - edit - or as I said by PM to Joanne, note the two Ronnies ... I couldn't resist ...). There are no marriages to match the two surnames for two of those births. Not sure what it might mean, but would like to see the Hubbard-McCornick marriage certificate just to be sure!

Will PM you the details, Joanne.

i have thought that as well but!!!!!
he did use the name hubbard i can remember

i think i'm going to throw the towel in on this one it's doing my head in, it was meant to stay hidden
thanks for your help
:))

I'm beginning to wonder if Hubbard was actually Russell's surname.................

Joanne you are not thick....... just new to this as we all were once!

There are some really kind people on here who want to help you and

it will all make sense in the end :-)

Kind regards,

Cathy

The bit about click to see others on page is not relevant to your search...........it would have been better if the poster had deleted it.

There are several births on every page of the GRO register............that's all it refers to

Are you basing you assumption about his year of birth on the birth info found for you?

Unless you get the cert, you have no way of knowing the first name(s) of the father of the boy born in 1939

sorry what do you mean by click to see others on page??
still abit thick at this
;))

There is no marriage for a George Hubbard to anyone with surname Beck*...although, if the mother had been married previously, her name when she re-married would not have been Beck

it is Marie sorry i can't spell and sometime i get my words in a muddle.
I believe it was my grandfather George james hubbard born in yarmouth but he did have a wife BEFORE marrying my nan May Mccormick but i can't find this first wife it may have been this BECKS,, that came up in 1939 being the mother to RUSSELL HUBBARD 1939!!!!.. I have no family that i can ask.
I didn't think this could be so hard!! i feel like i want to cry:((

Thank you Joanne......can I ask you now just to confirm that the man's wife was MARIE..........your original posting had her as MARIA.......and the one letter makes a huge difference when searching.

BUT....I repeat a much earlier posting - there is only ONE birth in England & Wales for the name Heidi Hubbard.......and that was in 1994.

Who was Russell's father? Who was his mother?

Hi
my Unlce's name is Russell but we called him Rusty!
all i can tell you about his children which i am banging my head of every wall is the eldest is

Julie(not sure middle name) she could be in her 50-55years
HEIDI(Again not sure middle name) aged late 48-54years
Andrew(??) aged 43-49 years
Victoria (??) aged late 35-40 years
the last girl i can't remember that well her name began with an "A" aged 33-35years
their mother was named Marie and all i think was born in Great Yarmouth Norfolk . Russell and Marie divorced in 1970ish i think the early part. Then i lost all contact with them, to which this day i have hated hope this help
I can't say thank you enough to you guys
:))

I have tried - in vain - to find sibling births matching the names given for the man's 'children' .

So, until - and unless - Joanne returns with some accurate information, this is not worth pursuing