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I'm trying to find information in regard to the surname of Moremon. I know that most came from around Bristol and some from Middlesbrough. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Surname: moremon
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)

showed 5 births:-

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
MOREMON Matilda Middlesbro' 9d 629
Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
Moremon Sidney Ewart Middlesbro' 9d 620
Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
Moremon Ethel Middlesbro' 9d 591
Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
Moremon Alfred Thomas Middlesbro' 9d 641
Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
MOREMON Edith Middlesbro' 9d 623

after this 4 marriages:-
Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
Moremon Charlotte A Barrett Middlesbro 9d 1016
Barrett Thomas W Moreson Middlesbro' 9d 1016

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Moremon Dorothy A Eudale Middlesbro' 9d 1462a
Eudale Harry Moremon Middlesbro' 9d 1462a

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Moremon Teresa Teasdale Middlesbro' 9d 1218
Teasdale William O Moremon Middlesbro' 9d 1218

Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
Moremon Ethel Oyston Middlesbro' 9d 1314
Oyston George B Moremon Middlesbro'. 9d 1314

and just one more birth:-
Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Moremon Joyce M Walker Middlesbro' 9d 819

The only Moremon's living in Middlesbrough in 1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD MOREMON ALFRED THOMAS M 1904 7 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON CHARLOTTE ADA F 1894 17 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON DOROTHY ANN F 1898 13 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON EDITH F 1907 4 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON ETHEL F 1899 12 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON JANE ANN F 1866 45 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON SIDNEY M 1868 43 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON SIDNEY EWART M 1896 15 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD MOREMON TERESA F 1901 10 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

All living in the same household!

Two more births
Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Moreman Dorothy Ann Middlesbro' 9d 635
Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Moreman Teresa Middlesbro' 9d 653

and two more marriage:-
Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Moreman Sidney E Birch Middlesbro' 9d 1244
Birch Mary Moreman Middlesbro' 9d 1244

Name: Thomas A Moremon
Spouse Surname: Mary A Walker
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 1376

possible marriage for the couple in1911 census
Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
Cockburn Jane Ann Guisbro' 9d 987
Fulcher Fredrick Guisborough 9d 987
Moore Kate Guisbro' 9d 987
Moreman Sidney Guisbro' 9d 987

These 2 marriages on BVRI:

MOREMON, Thomas Age: 20 Marriage
Wife: Charlotte WILLIAMS Age: 19
Marriage Date: 5 May 1867 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: St Philip and St Jacob
Husband's Father: Charles MOREMON
Wife's Father: Abraham WILLIAMS
Source: FHL Film 1596924 Dates: 1854 - 1869

REDMAN, George Age: 23 Marriage
Wife: Mary Ann MOREMON Age: 24
Marriage Date: 8 Jan 1888 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Husband's Father: Alfred REDMAN
Wife's Father: James MOREMON
Source: FHL Film 1596529 Dates: 1851 - 1906

1901 England Census about Sidney Moreman

Name: Sidney Moreman
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane A
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwell, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Eston
Ecclesiastical parish: South Bank St John
Town: North Eston
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Miles Street

Occupation: Steelrail Straightener

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members:
Name Age
Sidney Moreman 32
Jane A Moreman 35 born: Lofthouse, Yorkshire
Charlotte A Moreman 7 - all children born South Bank
Sidney Ewart Moreman 5
Dorothy Ann Moreman 3
Ethel Moreman 1
Teresa Moreman 7 months

Service Records:-
Name: Sidney Ewart Moremon
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1895
Residence : 40 Queen St, South Bank Yorks
Regiment Number: 37565
Document Year: 1915
Number of Images: 21

Age 20yrs. and 5mths
Trade: Steelworker
Not Married
Next of Kin: Sydney Moremon , Father
Medals: British War Medal and Victory Medal

another marriage:-
Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
BRITTON Joshua Keynsham 5c 1079
Kendall Louisa Keynsham 5c 1079
LAURENCE Mary Hannah Keynsham 5c 1079
Lawrence Mary Hannah Keynsham 5c 1079
MOREMON Eli Keynsham 5c 1079
The district Keynsham spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire and Somerset

Same Eli as in 1881 census:-

1861
Name: Eli Moreman
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Mangotsfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Oldland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Moreman 41 born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire
(Coal Miner)
Ann Moreman 38 born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire
(Seller of ?)
Mary Ann Moreman 18
(Shoemaker)
Thomas Moreman 14
(Coal Miner)
Joseph Moreman 11
Charles A Moreman 6
Eli Moreman 1


and in 1871
Name: Eli Moreman
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Mangotsfield
Town: Soundwell
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Oldland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Moreman 52 - Coal Miner
Ann Moreman 48
Charles Moreman 14
Eli Moreman 11
Louisa Moreman 6
Sidney Moreman 3


and the parents in 1881
Name: Charles Moremon
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Mangotsfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Soundwell Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Barm Seller (Brewer)

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Oldland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Moremon 63
Mary Anne Moremon 60

Wow thank you everyone for your replies. Your generosity in helping me is unbelievable.

I'm just starting our family tree in the Uk side after collating a lot of information on our Australian end. My great grandfather Eli Moremon came to Australia in and around 1884 we believe but at this point I just can't figure out how he came or when he actually arrived. I have searched all the immigration records I can find but no luck so far. I will have to keep searching.

Thanks again, Gai

is this the WWII enlistment in Australia of Sidney jnr?

MOREMON SIDNEY : Service Number - N270391 : Date of birth - 09 Aug 1891 : Place of birth - GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - MOREMON BEATRICE

There is another enlistment under same name showing dob as 9 Aug 1894 in Frampton Crettrell, Gloucestershire. He was 38yrs 9 months at the time (1933), occupation painter, married and living at 30 Golden Grove St in Redfern with wife Mrs B R Moremon.

There is a marriage in Plymouth UK of Sidney MOREMON and Beatrice R GEORGE in 1911 (Sep qu, see FreeBMD).
Then these births in Plymouth with mother's mn George: Alfred C 1912, Sidney R 1914, Daisy M 1914 (not a twin of Sidney), Beatrice L K 1916, Francis E 1919.

So then these must be their sons enlistments also in WWII:

MOREMON ALFRED CHARLES : Service Number - 72920 : Date of birth - 19 Dec 1911 : Place of birth - PLYMOUTH ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY : Next of Kin - MOREMON EMMA

Alfred married Emma Louisa CRACKNELL in Rozelle NSW in 1936 (reg 8206).

MOREMON SIDNEY RALPH : Service Number - NX176809 : Date of birth - 09 Dec 1913 : Place of birth - PLYMOUTH ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - CHOWDER BAY NSW : Next of Kin - MOREMON MARGARET

So Sidney born 1913 but not reg until 1914.

Sidney Ralph married Margaret Catherine KELLY in Mosman NSW in 1938 (reg 3217).

Daisy M MOREMON married Laurence P RYAN in 1933 in Sydney (reg 230).

Beatrice Louisa married John M LEIHN in 1935 in Drummoyne NSW (reg 7283).

Francis Edward married Winifred Grace ATKINS in Ashfield NSW in 1944 (reg 1111).

Beatrice and the children arrived in Sydney in 1927 but I can't see Sidney snr's arrival:
MOREMON B R 1888 F 1927 London Australia Sydney
MOREMON D M 1911 F 1927 London Australia Sydney
MOREMON A C 1912 M 1927 London Australia Sydney
MOREMON S R 1914 M 1927 London Australia Sydney
MOREMON B L 1917 F 1927 London Australia Sydney
MOREMON F 1920 M 1927 London Australia Sydney

Theer are deaths at Ryerson Index (www.ryerson.org) for Beatrice Rosa (1960 aged 74, dau of Wm & Laura), Alfred Chas (1974), Margaret Catherine (1985).

Also at Ryersons are deaths of Sidney Thomas (as Sidney Joseph) and Alfred Ernest, sons of Eli & Ada. You can request lookups of the death notices which may help with names of chn/spouses.

:-)

Btw Catherine - this is the right Eli, he died in Ryde, NSW in 1928 son of Chas & Ann. His wife was Ada Jane nee CRADDOCK; she died in Leichhardt aged 89 in 1954.

There is a possible arrival in NSW of Louisa MOREMON, Eli's sister, aged 22 in 1887 aboard Abyssinia

Then a marriage as Louisa MOREMAN in Richmond in 1888 to John TIMMINS (reg 5420). They had at least 5 chn, mostly in Leichhardt NSW.

John Henry 1888-1952
Wm P 1890-1890
Elsie Gertrude E 1891-1970
Doris Louise 1898-1968
Maggie Emily Lucy 1902-1974 (HILLMAN)

Death for Louisa TIMMINS, daughter of Chas & Ann, in Ryde NSW in 1941 (reg 11599).

?!?!

Thanks everyone I'm reading your replies and I'm blown away by your responses.

To Catherine and Cherilyn in particular the Eli Moremon records you have found who died in Ryde in 1928 is my great grandfather and I have a copy of his death certificate. One discrepancy i have found is that we thought he was only in NSW but is death certificate states he lived 43 years in NSW and 1 year in Qld.

I can't believe how quickly all this information you have managed to put together in a short time when i have been trying for months. I'm not sure if the Louisa Moremon who arrived on the Abyssinia is Eli sister but will definitely look into it.

I'm not sure about the Plymouth connection and whether we are related or not. I went on Facebook and sent a message to a number of people with the Moremon surname and one responded. He is from the Plymouth connection and his father sent me his brief family history as he is keen for his family tree to be completed and he was hoping me might be related. I suppose I'll have to wait and find the connection.

I have been looking at all the immigration records on the internet but just can't pinpoint how or where Eli came into the country, any ideas. He did do lay preaching for the Church of England but I don't know if they would have sponsored him to leave England for Australia.

Thanks again, Gai

Gai,
I don't have worldwide ancestry so can't help on the immigration of Eli, sorry.

If the family I found is the correct one then you now know that Eli had the following siblings:-
Mary Ann Moreman 1843
Thomas Moreman 1847
Joseph Moreman 1850
Charles A. Moreman 1856
Eli Moreman
Louisa Moreman 1855 - possibly immigrated to Australia
Sidney Moreman 1858 - went to Middlesbrough

I've had another look at the census records to see if I could find the family in 1851 to see if there are any more children, and here they are:-
Name: Charles Moreman
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Mangotsfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Bitton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Moreman 31
Ann Moreman 28 born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire
Mary A Moreman 8
Eli Moreman 6
Thomas Moreman 4
Joseph Moreman 6 Mo

so there was another Eli but he died in 1859
Deaths Mar 1859 (92%)
Moremon Eli Keyn_ham 5C 569

but looks as though there are no more children.

Are you looking for info on the other siblings or do you just need the immigration info?

Hi Catherine,

The reason I was looking for immigration info was the was my next step in regard to Eli.

I will definitely be trying for information on Eli's siblings and just haven't' got that far yet. I have been using the trial period for different sites to collate bits and pieces but I have limited funds so it is slow going. I think some of the searches I'm trying for are too specific because i don't seem to be progressing very far. You are an expert on these searches and I would love to know your secret as I would love to trace my great grandmother Ada Jane (Eli's wife) side of the family also.

Gai.
When you do searches for people too much information can throw up no results. Eg if you say a person is born in a certain place and the census does not give the correct spelling it comes up no match.
I have found on some census the person has put the street name they were born in instead of town.

Put the persons name,age plus minus 2 and see what results come up.You will see any mistranscriptions that way

Found Eli and Ada's marriage in Sydney NSW in 1887 (reg 526). Do you have this certificate? She is shown as CRADDICK buther death has CRADDOCK.

There is a birth that fits in NSW, in 1862 in Paddington, Ada J CRADDOCK daughter of William & Jane (reg 3473); some siblings born as CRADDICK.

William (22) & Jane (19) CRADDICK arrived in NSW aboard 'John Bunyan' in 1857 as assisted immigrants. Baby Thomas died on the voyage. This looks like thier marriage in UK:

Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)
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CRADDICK William Manchester 8d 136
HARTLEY Jane Manchester 8d 136

or could be this one:

Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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Craddock William W. Ham 4a 1
Golding Jane W Ham 4a 1

This birth inclines me to the Manchester couple:

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)
Craddick Thomas Chorlton 8c 526
[Hulme was in Chorlton Rego D - now under Manchester]

There are local Rego Office indices online at:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CRADDICK William HARTLEY Jane Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/111/301

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CRADDICK Thomas Hulme Manchester HUL/75/7

I don't know the relevance, but Hulme was in the "spoiled" 1851 chunk:
Hulme Sub-District
Moss Side Township
Hulme Township
Military in Barracks
http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk/intro.htm

1851
Thomas Craddock abt 1809 Scotland head Hulme, Lancashire Joiner
Elizabeth Craddock abt 1814 Songhomsel, Yorkshire wife Hulme, Lancashire
William Craddock abt 1835 Hulme son Hulme, Lancashire Joiner
Agnes Craddock abt 1838 Hulme, Lancashire daughter Hulme, Lancashire Milner
Elizabeth Craddock abt 1847 Manchester, Lancashire daughter Hulme, Lancashire
Jane Craddock abt 1850 Manchester, Lancashire, daughter Hulme, Lancashire
George Reas abt 1815 Shifnal, Shropshire lodger? Hulme, Lancashire Traveller Laboure

ho107/221/341/? Civil parish=Hulme

[Songhomsel looks like an Ancestry stuff up]
That Thos is a joiner reinforces my view that the baptism below is our Agnes.



http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/Manchester/cathedral/index.html

Baptism: 13 Aug 1837 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Agnes Craddick - Daughter of Thomas Craddick & Elizabeth
Abode: Manchr
Occupation: Joiner
Notes: [entry number repeated in register, 5191 missing]
Baptised by: R. C. Clifton
Register: Baptisms 1837, Page 649, Entry 5192
Source: FHL 1545611

In 1838 the borough of Manchester was formed and Hulme was incorporated into that borough, adding its inhabitants to the 150,000 already resident in Manchester.

In the 20 years after 1850, there were 8 church of England churches built in Hulme! In 1841 it had one church, St Georges, built 1827.

There's a # of Qs I can't answer, lacking an Ancestry sub.

Is Thomas a joiner? YES, AS WAS WM - AGNES WAS A MILINER
Where are the 1851 pobs? SEE 1851 CENSUS ABOVE
Why isn't Jane a relation - was this an oversight or a transcription problem?
ELIZ IS DITTOED AS A DAUGHTER, LIKE AGNES - JANE IS DITTOED TOO, BUT WITH "
Is Eliz a=4, or is this another transcription problem - possibly by the enumerator? IMAGE SAYS 4 YEARS
Who is George Reas - was I correct in including him in the h/h? HE APPEARS TO BE A LODGER - IMAGE UNCLEAR
How close physically are they in the census? MODERATELY - GUESS AT 1KM - 4 DOUBLE PAGES IN THE BOOK
What are Robt + Thos's occups? BOTH JOINERS

Is Thos a bro of Robt - maybe their dad was William. [This is really a suggestion based on them both naming their eldest son William]

Lastly - Who was Wm's dad from m.cert, and what was the dad's occup?

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1841
Living:- Irwell Street Cheetham.
Robert Craddock abt 1804 Scotland (Joiner)
Grace Craddock abt 1813 Scotland
William Craddock abt 1835 Lancashire.
John Craddock abt 1837 Lancashire.
Robt Craddock abt 1839 Lancashire.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 579; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 4; Page: 1; Line: 12; GSU roll: 438731.


Living:- Broom Field, Cheetham
Thos Craddock abt 1809 Scotland (Joiner)
Elizabeth Craddock abt 1813 Lancashire.[sic]
William Craddock abt 1835 Lancashire.
Agnus Craddock abt 1837 Lancashire.
Elizabeth Craddock abt 1840 Lancashire.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 579; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 3; GSU roll: 438731.

[ho107/579/10= PARISH: Manchester (part), TOWNSHIP: Beswick, (3)(5)Blackley, Bradford, Broughton, Burnage, Cheetham, Chorlton-cum-Hardy HAMLET: Kersall


Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
Craddick Elizabeth Chorlton 20 274

Deaths Sep 1842 (>99%)
Craddock Elizabeth Manchester 20 463
or
Deaths Sep 1844 (99%)
Craddick Elizabeth Manchester 20 505

Births Mar 1850 (>99%)
Craddick Jane Chorlton 20 220

Births Sep 1839 (>99%)
Craddock Robert Manchester 20 496

Hi Cherilyn, thanks for the information about Ada Jane Moremon and I will follow it up as I find it very interesting. I will try and purchase her birth certificate because is she really was born in Australia that totally contradicts what has been passed on through the generations.

Ada's and Eli's daughter Beatrice wrote out some of the family history which states " Ada Jane Moremon born at Manchester England, 27th July 1865 and died Leichhardt Sydney Oct 2nd 1954 was the second eldest daughter of William and Jane Craddick who settled in Queensland."

So going on your information she was born here in Sydney. Maybe a copy of her death certificate might be helpful.

I know that the information Beatrice has supplied isn't 100% correct as she has her father (Eli) coming to Australia at the age of 15 but a friend in the UK has found him in the 1881 census at the age of 21. If the information is correct on his death certificate then I believe he arrived around 1884 making him 24 years of age.

I'm finding this all very interesting and I'm currently typing up my grandfathers WW1 diary as well but it's taking a backseat to the family tree at the moment. I'm hooked.